I gave it another go.

**Cheshire_cat** · 05-18-2007, 03:35 PM

Well the first time I asked to have my site reviewed it got rated pretty bad, but I took a lot of the suggestions into consideration and I tried to fix a lot of things that were mentioned. I know I am still using tables( I am actually in the process of trying to learn css so I can convert) but for now I wanted to re submit my site to see if I improved and or if I should go back to the drawing board. Thanks again.

http://www.pawdesign.net

**Cheshire_cat** · 05-18-2007, 04:31 PM

and you know...

**alikayani** · 05-18-2007, 05:18 PM

overall a gudsite. but u must update ur site wid nice graphics, if u need some rush, dats wot i can say.... bubye

**delighted** · 05-18-2007, 08:38 PM

I think you should practice your design skills a little more before trying to sell them.

Good luck, though!

**Spacyjane** · 05-18-2007, 08:42 PM

I took a quick glance at your site and i'm no expert but my first impressions were that you were a pet store groomer. sorry but i have to be honest
spacyjane

**coldclimber** · 04:00 AM

have you used some old template for this site as your coding is in caps

If you wanted to create a simple design site to drum up some business then i would suggest you use joomla as there are many templates you can get and it would make your site look better. You can also update the site and info easier as well, because at the moment i am sorry to say you have no chance of getting any work from this site.

I also have to agree with the previous post, that i also thought it was a pet site

**Spacyjane** · 05-19-2007, 07:51 AM

hi phil,
i know its discouraging. i had the same imput, in fact i was told to scrape my site and start over which i did. i'm still not there but i'm still working on it as we speak. i kept posting after i made changes and getting feedback because i know most of these posters are professional and where else can i get such great feedback. best of luck
spacyjane

**sappro** · 05-19-2007, 11:18 PM

I don't particularly care for the top menu. It seems like they are out of place. Tabs usually aren't free floating but are bottom-bordered by some element which makes sense in terms of what those tabs do. AKA pull together and tie in the content under the tabs with the tabs themselves. Use them in much the same way tabs would be used on file folders in the real (physical) world.

Your images have large sizes. Think about compressing them so as not to ostracize potential clients with slower connections.

The "our store" part seems a little cheesy. It isn't a store so much as two items. I think you should get rid of it. Keep your site's goal and aim consistent.

Add a PHP or ASP option so that users can contact you via email without having to copy/paste your address into their own email program. Use a script behind a form that allows them to email you directly from your website. Make sure to ask them for their contact information so that you can reply, though!

Just keep looking at professional looking sites and try to figure out what makes them look so good. Try to incorporate these ideas (without plagiarizing) into your own site. I suggest: http://csszengarden.com/ as a resource.

Good luck!

**highanddry** · 05-20-2007, 01:51 AM

I don't think you are getting enough props. This is a huge improvement from your old site man. Thats your design i'm assuming, don't a template page if your business is going to be design.

**sappro** · 02:05 AM

If this new design (see attached) is done not from a template, then I must commend you! You made a big leap in a short amount of time and it looks much better.

**Cheshire_cat** · 05-21-2007, 12:09 PM

Yes the site above is my new site. But it was not my site when I original created this thread. My site then did not get good reviews so I speed up the process of creating the css site that I had been previously working on. However it is not finished, but I thought I should go ahead and make that one live and hopefully it will be finished today or tomorrow. Thanks everyone for taking time to look at it.

**jv16** · 05-21-2007, 12:54 PM

Wow, quite a progress in such a short time.

I think there are a bit too many paws in your site, even if you are called "paw design" you should perhaps only display your logo once, in the header. Displaying it three times looks rather strange to me.

There's something about the navigation bar graphics that I don't quite like, but I'm afraid I can't put my finger on it. Maybe the fact the buttons have those edges?

You should perhaps make those small headings like Web Design and Graphics Web Design to work as links as well.

I think the site could use a bit more colors, perhaps a better header image?

**wogazm** · 05-21-2007, 01:01 PM

very nice!

**highanddry** · 07:11 PM

I also agree with jV17.. too many paws,

Never mind.. i guess you changed it ;!! I like the buttons btw. I think your store does not link back to the main site.. Or it does, but as big as that button is, its a bit confusing

**Cheshire_cat** · 05-22-2007, 01:23 AM

I am still working on the store - Im changing the whole design of it so that it will better match my homepage layout. Thanks for the comments I did take two of the paws out and your right it does look better.

**highanddry** · 05-22-2007, 04:38 AM

just one more thing... I recognize some of those graphic images i think.. is the eye from photo shop? Maybe it isnt but any images you use, get permissions for. If you made all the images for your site just disregard this comment but im pretty sure i recognize the eye.

Good Work

**MattCoops** · 05-22-2007, 04:39 AM

Do not show those logo designs that you have now.
Take some time to build a portfolio, then create the site to showcase it.
On the "Our Work" page, I'd consider adding sized thumbnails.
I would make the store link open in another window.
And I would seriously consider doing some work for non-profits to build a portfolio of work. Not create a portfolio, and then work on putting work in it. Your doing it backwards.
Nice template though.

**ghost115** · 05-23-2007, 05:47 PM

Nice graphics on there. Keep it up

**Cheshire_cat** · 05-24-2007, 01:23 PM

Thanks for all the comments good and bad, I’m taking them all in to consideration. Thanks again

**magz123** · 05-25-2007, 01:52 PM

I actually think the site is quite good. However, the logo could use some work as at least in my mind it doesn't go with the site.