Pet Supply Website

**bzimage** · 02-01-2007, 07:13 PM

Sorry all, I had some stuff to take care of

Hoosier_Buddy & Travel Agent, I thought that Hoosier_Buddy was saying that the persons domain was helping his rank. That is how it sounded to me at a quick read. Thinking that the domain name makes a difference is false.

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 02-01-2007, 07:36 PM

No I wasn't, but believe it or not theseokit, domain names do help your rankings, I know that for a fact.

lets say for instance my competitor in the appliance parts industry, RepairClinic. there domain name is repairclinic.com. They have there url everywhere, placed on thousands and thousands of websites. if you type in the word repair in google search engine they show up as #1. And I've seen it many other times before, and I know domain names do have a effect in the search engine rankings.

Here's another one for ya, applianceaccessories.com, part of Whirlpool, a manufacturer of appliances and appliance parts, if you type in the word appliance accessories they show up as #1.

**bzimage** · 02-01-2007, 07:38 PM

I don't mean to put you down dude, but I can prove that a domain don't matter. I said what I believe to be true, you said what you said. Its not up to me to change your mind

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 02-01-2007, 07:40 PM

Well then prove it.

**bzimage** · 02-01-2007, 07:43 PM

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...n&q=good+times

there is no www.goodtimes.com .co.uk .ca nuttin first.

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 02-01-2007, 07:46 PM

True, but they are ranked up there in the search engines, I didn't say that you'll be #1 no matter what, I said that it will have a effect in the rankings.

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 02-01-2007, 08:18 PM

Heh, No comeback. Nice One theseokit, you really know how to stand your ground. And to inform you all, and I know pretty much all webmasters know this, that domain names do help your rankings.

**Visio** · 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by theseokit

Please dont tell me you have fallen into the domain name keyword trap? You do know that domain means like zippo!

Not true, not true at all. Depends alot on which search engine but both Google and MSN do still place value on domain names. MSN puts a VERY high value on the domain name.

Read these:

http://www.1stsearchenginerankings.c...ame-in-google/
http://www.1stsearchenginerankings.c...n-name-factor/

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Originally Posted by theseokit

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...n&q=good+times

there is no www.goodtimes.com .co.uk .ca nuttin first.

Hmm your example proves just the opposite atleast using your logic. Notice all the pages/domains there with the keyword 'good times' google factors in domain name keywords, anchor text, page name etc. What value it gives them is beside the point. The fact is they give it value.

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Originally Posted by Hoosier_Buddy

Heh, No comeback. Nice One theseokit, you really know how to stand your ground. And to inform you all, and I know pretty much all webmasters know this, that domain names do help your rankings.

Yes real ones. Domains are factored in. Anyone who says they aren't needs help

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 02-02-2007, 01:32 PM

thx Visio. Anyone else disagree with "theseokit" on this subject.

**bzimage** · 02-02-2007, 01:39 PM

When you both can present solid proof that I am wrong let me know

I don't mind learning new things I'm open to it. I proved my point you haven't proved yours.

let me know!

I get my knowledge from all sorts of resources, Matt Cutts to name one. He says it dont matter and he is in the know....

**bzimage** · 02-02-2007, 04:12 PM

You know what, I want to right now apologize, What I said was mean after reading through it and I hope you both can forgive me. I still don't believe it makes a difference, but the way I tried to make it apparent was wrong.

If you don't have a domain name with a keyword of yours in it, and your adamant that having it in the URL helps. You can try this method.

COMPANY-NAME.com/KEYWORD-Targets.html

This will fix that problem, if it really is one....

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 02-02-2007, 04:43 PM

np, didn't bother me.

**bzimage** · 02-02-2007, 04:52 PM

better to be nice now then get rude comments from others later on down the road for a silly remark.

**travelagent** · 09:18 PM

theseokit -- before spouting your mouth off on numerous subjects, which oftentimes you display blatant lack of real SEO knowledge and experience, you need to realize that Matt Cutts is the Owner of Google and more often than not, sends emails to highly experienced Webmasters / Programmers for their advice on numerous subjects, including Beta versions ... I should know, as he contacts me quite often, being a former MicroSTOOPID Programmer and Webmaster for over 14 years.

I've been quietly observing many of your posts lately as an alleged SEO "Expert" and, after looking at your site, can guarantee you've been doing alot of copy/paste from other SEO sites to make yourself appear to look like someone who knows SEO inside and out -- you've even copied/pasted many things from my friend, David, and I don't appreciate it.

So, before you put my name in the middle of an argument, I highly suggest you do a tremendous amount of search / research / beta testing before saying anything ... I was the one who told "Hoosier_Buddy" the truth about your domain crap, followed by actual proof, of which you finally relented by offering a lame apology for your severe lack of knowledge.

Please do everyone a big favor -- get a few more YEARS of practical experience and knowledge before hanging your shingle as an alleged SEO expert, okay?

**whizkidsg** · 02-02-2007, 11:21 PM

change the colour of the backgrond will do

**DOTCOM1** · 02-03-2007, 05:28 AM

I like the idea and the design but i dont like the first page, it looks like you have just dumped some bold text there and left it, the first page needs to look the best because this is the first page people see and if they dont like it then they wont bother looking into your website.

**bzimage** · 02-05-2007, 09:39 AM

I will Pm you travel agent, this thread is not for this.

**Visio** · 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by theseokit

When you both can present solid proof that I am wrong let me know

I don't mind learning new things I'm open to it. I proved my point you haven't proved yours.

let me know!

I get my knowledge from all sorts of resources, Matt Cutts to name one. He says it dont matter and he is in the know....

Matt cutts is not a resource he is a biased source. It is like a creationist writing a book about the world and an evolutionist writing one. They are both biased opinions even though one is correct. Matt Cutts is not an seo working to gain a reputation as a reputable source. He is a Google employee which in theory gives him that rep already. However he has been known to say things in the best interest of Google not the webmasters. With the .edu/gov links Google saw they were getting spammed so sent Matt out to say they had no extra value than a .com. He said this so that they wouldn't get spammed. His motives will always be to keep google relevant and spam free so if a method is likely to be spammed Google may not be totally honest with you on it. Aaron Wall a prominent seo agrees that Matt Cutts has been known to say things in the best interest of Google.

You want prove? Well heres my suggestion. Register two domains. One keyword rich and the other without any mention of the keyword for example: vintage-train-sets.com and johnniesantiques.com
Now find 100-200 directories. Submit the first site to one and then the second so they both will probably get listed about the same time. This way you can watch them rank and see the difference. I tried this before and the keyword rich domain was 2 pages higher. Use a low competition phrase so that they will rank faster. In a high-competition scenario they may never rank within 1000 pages with directory links.

Try it out and you will agree. Believe me I have seen it. They have value. What value they have is unknown and is not as great as MSNs but is still pretty good.

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Originally Posted by theseokit

When you both can present solid proof that I am wrong let me know

Oh and mate umm this proof thing... Uhh yeah I have a good percent of the seo world backing my stance with proof. But where is yours?
Read Randfish(a very highly educated and respected seo): http://www.seomoz.org/blog/domain-names-are-important

Hoosier Bunny: I like your avatar. Very nice! I think I will try and make myself one :P

**bzimage** · 02-05-2007, 10:57 AM

i HAVE TRIED YOUR SCENARIO VISO, AND IT DID THE EXACT OPOSITE.

**Visio** · 02-05-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by theseokit

i HAVE TRIED YOUR SCENARIO VISO, AND IT DID THE EXACT OPOSITE.

Ohh really? Mind sending me those urls?