King of the Bill

**007** · 11-02-2006, 07:16 PM

Hello everyone,

I just launched a new site http://www.kingofthebill.com/

Please let me know what you think of it!

Basically, it's a virtual King of the Hill ad based concept, where advertisers can fight to be on top.

The first ad starts at $1, and the price increases by one bill ($1) after each purchase.

Of course feel free to buy an ad as well! :-D

Thanks for any suggestions or comments!

~007

**imported_Switch** · 11-03-2006, 11:32 AM

I like the idea, but, I don't mean to come accross as nasty, the layout/design could do with some tidying up. It's very busy and with all the different colours, there's no real theme. In my opinon, it looks a little unproffessional, I would smooth out the colours, maybe focus on the green? It's a good idea, and I hope it goes well for you!

**MonkeyBiz** · 11-03-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 007

Hello everyone,

I just launched a new site http://www.kingofthebill.com/

Please let me know what you think of it!

Basically, it's a virtual King of the Hill ad based concept, where advertisers can fight to be on top.

The first ad starts at $1, and the price increases by one bill ($1) after each purchase.

Of course feel free to buy an ad as well! :-D

Thanks for any suggestions or comments!

~007

As Ebert would say, I give it two thumbs way down.

The layout is very cheesy and the actual site creates no value. Therfore, any traffic the site derives will be untargeted and the advertisers won't see a positive ROI.

It loks like you were building a poker site and then gave up half way or something.

**007** · 11-03-2006, 12:43 PM

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The layout is very cheesy and the actual site creates no value. Therfore, any traffic the site derives will be untargeted and the advertisers won't see a positive ROI.

Well remember the Million Dollar Home Page.

I think we can all agree that that site was untargetted as well. And actually I realized in advance that there would need to be added value, which is why if you go to any of my forums, for example www.moneyforum.com you can see the top spot displayed.

**Verto** · 11-03-2006, 01:27 PM

What purpose does it serve? The only people visiting the website are advertisers and they arent going to look at other ads are they?

Im sorry but i realy dont know where this site is going. Please correct me if im wrong but there isnt actualy any content is there?

And if there isnt any content why would anyone want to come on the site, because your averrage person doesent come on a site to click ads.

**imported_Ack** · 11-03-2006, 02:09 PM

I was one of the early advertisers on Million Dollar Home Page. The contact form for the site we advertised is still spammed daily by people with copycat sites trying to sell spots on their crappy variations of the MDHP idea.

Your site is the first I've seen that actually looks interesting enough that it might take off. It will be interesting to keep an eye on this. I may even end up buying an ad.

**007** · 11-03-2006, 02:32 PM

I am the "mouse pointer" on the very top row on the MDHP on the left.

I got in when it was at around $10,000 and also know what you mean by the spam. It annoys me as well, and I have never bought anything from the spammers.

And no, I do not send spam to fellow MDHP'ers.

Anyway, some people on some other forums have mentioned that static links would be better.

I am considering setting up a page on a 7 year old PR4/5 domain of mine that will list all of the links purchased under a current promotions page, but as static links. That would certainly add to the value. Any thoughts?

I'm also displaying the 728x90 "current top advertiser" banner all of my forums that did not already have ad spots reserved.

@ Ack, If you get in now it will only cost you $3, and heck, it will help traffic because people will see activity and come back for more.

**imported_Ack** · 11-03-2006, 04:38 PM

That's quite a coincidence, our ads are one block apart from each other! I remember thinking how clever that mouse pointer was in grabbing people's attention.

I wouldn't be too interested in a link on a separate page, but it would be nice if the links on the actual "King of the Bill" page were normal static links. Part of the attraction is having a PR-passing link on the actual site that all of the media are linking to if the idea takes off. Of course, this would take away your ability to track clicks.

One question that came to mind while reading through your site is how long will this go on? Is there an ending date where the top bidder will keep the top spot, or does the bidding go on forever? You might want to address this in the info or in a faq.

Anyway, cool idea and good luck with it!

**imported_feros** · 11-03-2006, 04:56 PM

I like this idea. The layout isn't good, but the idea is pretty cool.

**007** · 11-03-2006, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ack

That's quite a coincidence, our ads are one block apart from each other! I remember thinking how clever that mouse pointer was in grabbing people's attention.

I wouldn't be too interested in a link on a separate page, but it would be nice if the links on the actual "King of the Bill" page were normal static links. Part of the attraction is having a PR-passing link on the actual site that all of the media are linking to if the idea takes off. Of course, this would take away your ability to track clicks.

One question that came to mind while reading through your site is how long will this go on? Is there an ending date where the top bidder will keep the top spot, or does the bidding go on forever? You might want to address this in the info or in a faq.

Anyway, cool idea and good luck with it!

That's funny that ours our near each other. Which one is yours? And yeah the mouse cursor was good until it got cluttered. Now you have to look at it to see it. Before, people would see it right away and wonder why it wasn't moving when they moved their mouse. :-D

Tracking clicks isn't the main idea of the site anyway so maybe if it's better to pass the PR (none at the moment obviously but anyhow) then I might change it. I guess each site can track their own clicks and they probably don't care about everybody else's anyway.

What about if there was a separate page on the site that listed everything as static links? It's still not the main page so I don't think the PR would be as high but what do you think?

And feros, do you have ideas for improving the layout? I've had more positive feedback on the look than negative, but I'm definitely trying to make it so it works for everybody.

**imported_feros** · 11-03-2006, 06:59 PM

The layout is not good because:

1) Cluttered

There's just so much going on here. Pretty self-explanatory.

2) No Focal Point or Flow

When I first went to the site I had absolutely no idea where to start reading. And if you don't have a place to start then there's no flow. It's best to design a layout so that users start at the most important part of the page and then create a path they can follow to the other elements.

3) Too Bold

Bold should be used to emphasize important parts of your page. On this site, everything is bold! Even the borders are 2-3px wide and black which is unnecessary.

4) Rules should be clearer

I think you should make the rules stand out a lot more. With a site like this you probably want to have your user know exactly why they're here in less than 5 seconds. I like the simple step by step rule outline, but make it more obvious to the reader.

5) Graphics

Finally the graphics in general just look very cheap and cheesey.

Please don't be offended by anything I've said, it's all just my opinion as usual.

**007** · 11-03-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by feros

Please don't be offended by anything I've said, it's all just my opinion as usual.

Oh of course not. I appreciate the constructive ctiticysm.

I will definitely take your ideas into consideration when working on the site.

Also, a note to anyone who was worried about the links not being static, I have changed how the links are pulled, and they are now static.

I will be linking this website from several of my higher PR sites, including at least 2 PR5's, 6 PR4's, and several 3,s and lower, in an attempt to pass some PR to it quickly and in turn pass it on to those who buy a link.

So, the next static text link is $3. Who wants it? :thumbup:

**imported_Ack** · 11-05-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 007

That's funny that ours our near each other. Which one is yours?

Mine is the monkey head to your left.

**slayerment** · 11-05-2006, 06:02 PM

The design and everything is fine. I really like the concept and hope it does well.

If it doesn't catch the right buzz before like $50 or so it will be pretty hard to rationalize buying an ad at that price. Hope it takes off for you.

Good luck!

**007** · 11-07-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by slayerment

The design and everything is fine. I really like the concept and hope it does well.

If it doesn't catch the right buzz before like $50 or so it will be pretty hard to rationalize buying an ad at that price. Hope it takes off for you.

Good luck!

That's the goal obviously. I am going to be running several ad campaigns soon to help get the word out more, and I also have some other "options" under my sleeve that I plan to unveil soon.

**MonkeyBiz** · 11-07-2006, 05:06 PM

I think you should stick to your TO site. More potential there.

**007** · 11-07-2006, 05:11 PM

I disagree. The other site was actually the idea of a friend of mine. We partnered to develop and promote it but it hasn't had as much interest as this site so far. This idea is more unique than the T.O. site, which was basically a pixel site.

We will see what happens though, but I predict this site will blow the T.O. site way out of the water.

**johnnyforms** · 11-10-2006, 02:23 PM

I like the design and I think it's a good idea, it may run out of steam once the ads get more expensive although at $200 an ad which is still managable if there is sufficient buzz you make $20100 in revenue.

I think a slight improvement would've been to make the increments smaller perhaps 0.10c, give away the first hundred for a reciprocal link, great free marketing, then you're making $10 + a sale and I think longer term you'd could make more that way as the ads are a lot more affordable - with these increments once you hit $100 you have $49545 and at $200 a bid you have $199,595 in revenue.

Good luck

**Lucas3677** · 11-13-2006, 07:10 PM

Congratulations on your site. It seems that it's a success.

**007** · 11-18-2006, 02:43 PM

Thanks guys. I was out of town with no internet for a week, so sorry for the late reply. Good to see sales have been coming in while I was away.

Closing in on $300 now. Will be putting all the money so far back into advertising the site, so the traffic should continue to be there.

So far several advertisers have told me that they are receiving good traffic from their links. I expect that traffic to grow as the site gets bigger! :-D