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03-16-2007, 05:36 AM
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what html editor to use?
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Posts: 70
Name: rex
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pipz..
im confused if i want to go down deep with web development, which is better to use: frontpage or dreamweaver?
for editing web images: paintshop pro or photoshop?
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03-16-2007, 05:51 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 32
Location: Oslo
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Dreamweaver! FrontPage creates some truly horrible HTML.
If you want really good HTML and full control, there is no way around actually learning it yourself. If you go for that path, I can recommend the editor Textpad.
As for photoediting, I would say photoshop.
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03-16-2007, 06:23 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 182
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Dreamweaver and Photoshop is our main tools in creating website, we make good sites for over 4 years now.
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03-16-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 6,406
Location: Tennessee
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DW and Photoshop -- IF you can afford them ! They are both VERY expensive. So, for coding stick with something simple, like a text editor, it's better to learn to code sites by hand anyway.
A good alternative to Photoshop is PaintShopPro, or go open source and try GIMP.
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03-16-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 5,945
Name: Adam for web page design, not program
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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I'd stab myself in the eyes with a pencil and break the lead off before I recommend Dr*amw*av*r for anything. I don't care what anyone says, it's right up there with FrontPage for horrible coding.
As far as coding goes, Notepad++ is the best free text editor I've seen. I like the fact that it colour-codes your code so you can find holes quickly and easily in it (especially in ASP). If you can learn to code by hand (and it's not all that hard), you'll be miles ahead using something like this.
The downside to it that I found is that the colours aren't all unique (they often repeat colours for different things), so you will have to mess with it for about half an hour to get colours that you like, but it's easy enough to do.
As far as just drawing out a layout, I'd throw a vote in for Photoshop as well, as long as you don't use any of the ImageReady code (not sure if this is still true in CS2 but it is in 7).
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03-16-2007, 07:42 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 184
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I'm with ADAM, I have been using notepad++ for my html,css files, it works just great. If you are on MAC, use TEXTMATE.
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03-16-2007, 08:05 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 104
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I use Textpad. It's shareware. I have the paid version. It also color codes the text according to what tags you've used & it makes it so easy to see the entire commented out areas. Great when testing.
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03-16-2007, 09:56 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 70
Name: rex
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tnx is just downloaded notepad++ this tool is great!
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03-16-2007, 10:17 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 70
Name: rex
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woushi, what do you mean when you said that "FrontPage creates some truly horrible HTML"
can you pls explain this? tnx
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03-17-2007, 12:03 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 33
Name: kovid dutt
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Beginners For Frontpage And Dreamweaver For Pros
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03-17-2007, 01:38 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 696
Location: Middle England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LadynRed
DW and Photoshop -- IF you can afford them ! They are both VERY expensive.
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...and not getting much change from $1000 for both products they are very expensive toys unless you can really justify the cost. I sometimes wonder where people get the money from!
You can set yourself up with very good set of site creation tools (code editor, image editor, and FTP proggy) if you look around, either for free or low cost.
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03-17-2007, 02:06 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 70
Name: rex
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if i stay with frontpage , paintshop pro to build website. am i considered less professional? are these tools only for kids?
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03-17-2007, 02:10 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 70
Name: rex
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i had tried both - frontpage and dreamweaver. when you look at the code generated by both tools i noticed a lot of difference between them. in my evaluation fp is producing less, neat, code. while dreamweaver produces alot of codes that i dont what are other codes for.
can someone please explain this to me.
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03-17-2007, 04:49 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 256
Location: Croatia
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DW and FP produce code with garbage.
But, DW is much better than FP when You work in Code View.
Start from scratch and type Your code in it.
Coding by hand produce no garbage code. You can easily switch between Code and Layout View, to see what happened with Your code.
Dreamweaver is, de facto, standard in WYSIWYG HTML editors. FP is not.
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03-17-2007, 10:11 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 6,406
Location: Tennessee
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FP is also on it's way OUT with MS's new Expression Web, which still isn't great, but at least it produces half way decent HTML and CSS (not tables). It's still expensive though and will still rewrite your code !
I've said before, DW is a very good TOOL, but ONLY if you do NOT use it in WYSIWYG mode, code view only and that means you have to know HTML FIRST. It is NOT good for newbies who have zero knowledge of HTML or CSS. It has some very good site management tools, which is about all I use it for any more myself.
I write everything by hand using TopStyle - great editor, does HTML and CSS, has code highlighting and a lot of very nice tools - like HTML Tidy for debugging and validating code.
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03-17-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 57
Location: Chicago
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I've been using EditPlus for years now ( http://www.editplus.com/). It has tag highlighting, line numbering, powerful search/replace tools and built-in FTP client, which is great for uploading small updates.
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03-17-2007, 09:23 PM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 715
Name: John
Location: United States of America, California
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I would say Dreamweaver is good but make it so your dreamweaver uses photoshop in the settings so you can edit your images then and there
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03-18-2007, 12:15 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 184
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DW and FP are for amateurs. Why? Because you can create a good looking site with them, but you don't really know how they made it behind the scence. Take a good look at the code, it's a mess. Just today I had to fix a page coded in FrontPage by an amateur. FP used like 10 times the code you really need, messy and nasty codes, nested tables,... and on top of that, the site works in IE6 only. It won't function in any other browser *_*.
So yah, it depends, but if you are or want to be a web designer then you may better of write the code in pure html by notepad++ or even windows notepad works well.
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03-18-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shotokan99
pipz..
im confused if i want to go down deep with web development, which is better to use: frontpage or dreamweaver?
for editing web images: paintshop pro or photoshop?
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Thats a really good quetion but I here Dream Weaver 8 is really one of the best the price $289.00 or try the free composer from Mozilla Free. Ho many site are you going to make? I could surley help you with optimization absolutely free if your into the Key words and homepage perfection
Last edited by npapayas : 03-18-2007 at 01:26 AM.
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03-18-2007, 05:04 AM
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Re: what html editor to use?
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Posts: 135
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I love html-kit
Why? It's a text editor where you know what your page contains and easy to fix errors and it has a lot of code templates to help you learn html and css and do things faster. Also there are many plug-ins available for it, ftp client and it's FREE.
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