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Old 01-27-2007, 09:32 AM Re: Learning Web-Design
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Old 01-27-2007, 12:06 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I've always found W3Schools a very handy resource when I got stuck on anything.

Dreamweaver creates extra code? Where? Perhaps if you use templates? I've been using Dreamweaver a couple of years and find it very useful. Perhaps I don't have extra code because I create the code manually and use the design pane to see if it works properly (I've set it up to view both at the same time). I feel blind if I only work in one view...
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Old 01-27-2007, 12:20 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I've always found W3Schools a very handy resource when I got stuck on anything.

Dreamweaver creates extra code? Where? Perhaps if you use templates? I've been using Dreamweaver a couple of years and find it very useful. Perhaps I don't have extra code because I create the code manually and use the design pane to see if it works properly (I've set it up to view both at the same time). I feel blind if I only work in one view...
I have been checking out the W3 website already RanaD & like you say it has got some great articles that im gonna work through. I also picked up a book today as well that should help me with the basics.
Also thank you for the advice on Dreamweaver also.
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Old 01-27-2007, 12:27 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I'll second the vote for W3Schools. When I first started learning all this stuff spent a lot of time there and still sometimes find my way there now for a quick reference. Definitely worth a read through their tutorials.

Rana I think when most people talk about DreamWeaver creating extra code it's when someone builds a site in the design pane and lets DW write the code. I'd suggest you're actually hand coding, which is why you don't see the excess.

Of all the WYSIWYG editors DreamWeaver comes across to me as the best. It's still no substitute for hand coding a site.
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Old 01-27-2007, 12:37 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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Is it worth hand coding in Dreamweaver Vangogh or would you recommend another editor to use.
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:38 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I think DreamWeaver is a rather expensive code editor if that's all you're going to use it for. I don't want to talk you out of using DW. A lot of people use it to create some really good websites.

I use an editor called HTML Kit. It does what I need it to do. It has syntax highlighting, which I think is essential in any code editor and it also has some nice built in FTP features. It's free too.

I know you can extend it, but adding extra functionality, but I haven't done that much since I really only need a few basic features.
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Old 01-31-2007, 02:02 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I use an editor called HTML Kit. It does what I need it to do. It has syntax highlighting, which I think is essential in any code editor and it also has some nice built in FTP features. It's free too.
Hey there Vangogh. I've just downloaded the HTML-Kit. Looks quite good but a bit daunting 2 lol. Will have a play about with it. Thanks 4 the link m8
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Old 01-31-2007, 03:49 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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Hopefully it won't be too hard to figure out, but feel free to ask. I don't use any of the icons as I hand code everything. They look useful, but I'm happy typing away.

I also use it to connect to the server and work on files directly without going through all the download/upload stuff. You should know what you're doing before you do that though since it's easy to completely mess up a file. I have done it myself.

I know you can extend it a lot too, but I haven't added much to it either. The basic editor works fine for me.

Let me know if you have questions.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:49 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I'm an undergraduate studying Multimedia an Web Development, I'm in my third year now and the benefit of a program of study is some experience in all technologies. The drawbacks are I get less hands on experience and I'm skint!
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:40 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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Jim you can always get yourself some experience creating your own sites. If money is an issue there's plenty of free hosting around. You can even get a lot of experience running a free blog at blogger or WordPress.

And if you want to stay away from the free hosting solutions it's not as though paid hosting has to cost much. For under $10/month you should be able to get enough hosting for your needs.
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:18 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I agree, self taught. I have a few cousins that have all their certs, years in college and everything having problems getting work. I dont have any of that, just sites to show others that Ive allready done for other business and people and get tons of work.

Its all about the skill level you are at, how many programming languages you are good at, ect.. just how much total knowledge you have about everything to do with web site making.
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:20 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I think DreamWeaver is a rather expensive code editor if that's all you're going to use it for. I don't want to talk you out of using DW. A lot of people use it to create some really good websites.

I use an editor called HTML Kit. It does what I need it to do. It has syntax highlighting, which I think is essential in any code editor and it also has some nice built in FTP features. It's free too.

I know you can extend it, but adding extra functionality, but I haven't done that much since I really only need a few basic features.
I would have to say the best free code editor is built into windows allready its called Notepad.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:52 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I disagree about notepad being the best code editor and I would suggest if you think it is then you haven't tried some of the others.

You can certainly code a site entirely in notepad, but it lacks syntax highlighting which is very help and makes coding much more productive. I also like HTML Kit's FTP abilities. notepad can't connect to a server or edit files on the server.
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Old 02-28-2007, 03:29 PM Re: Learning Web-Design
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I've been learning site design by myself over the last 3 months. I found the W3Schools site extremely helpful as a primer. I also used the 30day free trial of Dreamweaver from Adobe to actually see what I was doing. Next, I downloaded various free templates and tweaked them to my likings. By doing this, I was able to see exactly what changing some of the more complex layout values did.
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