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Old 06-02-2002, 10:23 PM Hmm..Do People do this ?
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This was my thoughts while laying in bed thinking about my unique hits...I'm sure you guys who have been doing this much longer already know this but its new to me and wanted to hear your input about this technique. This is the Scenario...You have a free web site that has 3,000 members. If you sent a honest e-mail to these members and told them what is was about...example....You send a newsletter out to the members...blah blah blah and Im asking you to fill ot this simple form for a free magazine...You wont be subscribing to the magazine...you just get a free sample of the magazine. This in turn helps my site to keep being sponsered by the publishers of this magazine blah blah...the end

so if you got .75 for every lead assuming they all signed up but of course they won't ...wouldnt this generate some nice profit and is this legal ?

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Old 06-04-2002, 11:43 AM
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Its called 'incentivizing' and pretty much all lead offers dont allow you to do that.
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Old 06-04-2002, 01:03 PM
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Yea, it's like all those "Get Paid to Read Email" programs.

They use incentive lead programs. But as Ahmed said these are hard to come by...
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ahman? AHMAN?

ITS Ahmed!! ... first time i have heard of that one !!
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Old 06-04-2002, 09:52 PM
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LOL . I fixed it

How about Amen ??
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:13 PM
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You're not allowed to "incentivize" in most cases as Ahmed said, though you can ask people to visit your sponsors. Not trying to get around the issue, but sometimes it's good to tell your readers how you get paid without "incentivizing".

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Old 06-07-2002, 05:07 AM
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Yea, it's like all those "Get Paid to Read Email" programs.

They use incentive lead programs. But as Ahmed said these are hard to come by...
being somewhat of an expert on this since they pay my hosting bills...

Not all of them depend on incentive lead programs. A lot of them depend on a mix of things...

People/business purchasing advertising is one. Much like I purchased ads to advertise Webmaster-Talk. They pay the members some of the money taken in from the paid email ads purchased but they also keep some.

Also they are affiliated with pay-to-search companies. They pay the members a small portion of what they can earn per search to do a valid search. I have heard this can be very lucrative.

I personally don't care for the searches...

However, I don't think sending an ad out in a newsletter would be considered incentivizing. No one is being paid to get the magazine or given any reward at all for doing so.

Just MHO though.

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Old 06-07-2002, 02:00 PM
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This came to me from CJ today...hmm...maybe they were reading my mind

Dear Jeffrey Carpunky,

In the last CJ Wire we examined the best practices of top publishers, and this month we're taking a closer look at one of the most successful techniques we identified: contextual selling. Also, take a few minutes to get links from our new advertiser programs, as well as login to take advantage of our "hot" offers, on display in CJU Online in the Support menu.

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Increase Conversion Rates with Contextual Selling

When you place an ad on your Web site or in a newsletter, you are advertising the offer behind the ad. Ultimately, the sale "closes" on the advertiser's Web site, but effective publishers improve the initial opportunity for the sales process through contextual selling. How does this work?

As a publisher, when you place ads near or within content that relates to the offer, you are essentially qualifying the prospective buyer. This may be as simple as segregating apparel into Men's and Women's sections and inserting offers accordingly, or placing a credit card banner next to an article about personal finances.

In store merchandising, impulse items are placed near an exit, where consumers wait to check out. This is a sales strategy you are probably familiar with. The store is highlighting a problem and the merchandise offered solves the problem, causing you to buy something you didn't originally intend to buy. In online advertising, the sales oriented publisher builds content, often an article or newsletter, around their advertiser's product to create the same perception of need and then solve the problem with the product offered.


SheSheMe.com is a Commission Junction publisher that is effectively using contextual selling techniques. Every week, SheSheMe.com sends "The She She Scene" newsletter to their opt-in list of subscribers, twenty to thirty-something year old women who follow the latest trials and tribulations of their heroine, "she she me". By embedding product links within the text of the newsletter, SheSheMe.com strategically increases its conversion rates while providing a value-add to its subscribers: with a simple click, a subscriber can purchase the great new lip-gloss or beach towel that "she she me" recommends for summer. The format of the newsletter is especially effective because the reader relates to "she she me" and trusts the product recommendations.

Publishers that implement this strategy stimulate interest, create demand and present a solution. Not every consumer will respond, but those that do, will often be more prepared to buy. As a result, the publisher may not see a dramatic increase in their click-through ratio but will often see higher conversions than with non-contextually based offers.


Next Steps:


Examine your content - is your Web site or newsletter organized so that ads are placed adjacent to related content? Does the content make your visitors want to click-through to the offers? If not, brainstorm and then document your ideas for new content that will benefit your audience and create loyalty to your Web site and your offers.



Implement your ideas one at a time and then test the results.




Don't forget to make sure that you know who is visiting your Web site or reading your newsletters.




Examine the ads you are currently promoting - is there a match between them and your visitors? If not, you should adjust your ads accordingly.
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Old 06-07-2002, 03:54 PM
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altonpost,

great info article thanks. This theme (content selling) is the
main way of thinking behind affiliate programs such as Sitesell

and ebooks like Super Affiliate.

If I post an ad for something I wil get 'some' sales.

When I take the time to actually review something, or write
and article instead, sales are 10 - 20 times better!

Anyone can have a page with a bunch of links or banners, and
most people do. This means competetition is really not
very big at all.

Simply doing a few extra things like this makes ALL the
difference in the world.
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Old 06-07-2002, 04:11 PM
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next question is there any place out there that automatically generates a ebook that you can put your banners and affilates in ? That would be a sweet program

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Old 06-07-2002, 04:21 PM
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There is free software for generating ebooks but IMHO none of the free ones are worth much.

Best to just buy some ebook software, learn how to use it and go from there.

This is the one I want to get
http://www.ebookcreator.com/

Ooh and I just noticed they are running a sale on it.

I know though that they are using one of those scripts that changes the sale end date based on what date it is so I am in no hurry.

Before when I went to the site and bookmarked it that wasn't there and it was 79.95 or nothing.

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Old 06-07-2002, 04:30 PM
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I am a registered owner of ebookcreator and have been
very happy with it. You can use a brander to have affiliates
customize their books.

As for online customization, there are a few places
that create .PDF (acrobat) files online.
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Old 06-26-2002, 03:33 PM
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Hi,

Sorry for bumping up this old thread, but I just felt that I wanted to participate in this interesting discussion.

That type of strategy is called "incentivizing", like Ahmed (look, I said it correctly! ) has pointed out there. There are some affiliate programs that will allow this, but they will pay a bit less money for such a deal (after all, this is, in a way, "cheating" ). I remember clearly how some sites with games use the strategy of "click on the advertisement and get more points" to make money. *cough* Neopets and Sony *cough*
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Old 07-05-2002, 08:14 AM
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Drachewyn,

Thanks for this great info:
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This is the one I want to get
http://www.ebookcreator.com/

Ooh and I just noticed they are running a sale on it.


I just got it in time (Today being 7-5-2)!!!

BTW, this is my first post on my first day as a member of this forum. So hello all!

Mart
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Old 07-05-2002, 08:48 AM
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Old 07-06-2002, 09:46 PM
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Welcome MJ!

Glad to have you.

Did someone hijack this thread again? Are we incentivizing ebooks now?

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