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Old 08-17-2009, 03:33 AM Another noob out to learn web-design/development
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Heya fellas!!!
Since I was a kid I wanted to make a website of my own.
Back then it seemed very simple. Now when I'm finally 18 and got a brand new paypal account and I went off in search of online money making opps.
I did PTC, PTRs and all the stuff stupid people do to make a few dollars online.
Then I stumbled onto a website containing ads.......and I thought, maybe I could make a good website with a lot of cool content and traffic so that I can make much more than a few dollars.
I soon found out that we needed to know HTML and CSS to build a website which I didn't know and still don't.
My question is, which is the best way to learn web-design and web-development so that I can make a cool website and maybe also work for others to make websites for them?

I'm earning around 10$ a month nowadays so there is no problem for hosting and domain registration. My dad's office has Dreamweaver installed in all their Comps so no HTML editor problems either.
I want to make a nice-visual website relating to various niches. So I'll need cool buttons and templates. Any lead will be appreciated.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:28 PM Re: Another noob out to learn web-design/development
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My advice is to skip the Dreamweaver, and go straight into developing your sites manually without click and drag stuff.

I suggest visiting your local library or book store, and look for books relating to web design and web development.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:14 PM Re: Another noob out to learn web-design/development
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download a free HTML editor , Notepad++
http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm

http://www.w3schools.com/

top left link is where you should start.

As for designing, this depends on what program you use; GIMP, PSP, PS, Fireworks etc..

Just bing some tutorials for whatever design software you will be using; "free tutorials for XXXXX" for example.

Also good to read up on other people's problems on this board - a solution is posted to most queries so you will be well prepared for it in the future.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:51 PM Re: Another noob out to learn web-design/development
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Yeah as conqeror said w3schools is brilliant for HTML and CSS, if you can't do something google for tutorials on it. It's probably worth getting a book on layout in CSS, or a long tutorial. Many people have headaches with layout early on (including myself).

If you don't understand anything look it up on wikipedia as soon as you see it.

Look for tutorials on web design design theory. There's a book called "principals of beautiful web design" It's the only good one I read on this, I don't know how complete it is, it'll certailny teach you some basics, but play around and learn as you go (see this thread I just had).

Then there's also javascript and PHP.

Learn to use mysql in your PHP. (I'd say there's a niche for providing services in other database software like oracle).

If you're doing jobs then the more you know the more jobs you can do (some will tell you exactly what languages to do it in). PHP is a server side language, if you want to learn more, there's quite a few python, ASP, RUBY, JSP, and loads more. Also if you get into python look up django.

Then there's CMSs these are things like wordpress and this forum. You can modify the themes on these, and get paied/do it for yourself. Make sure you can install them without worries.

If you haven't already (unless you want to hire an admin) you'll need to learn to use Linux. I mean you don't have to use linux, but if you're serious then using a windows platform just isn't optimal (though some would debate otherwise). Also learn to use apache, .htaccess, that's not too hard.

To get experience using linux you may want to play about with a live CD (download a CD with the operating system on it, then boot from it instead of your windows. This allows you to play around with linux without writing to your hard drive.)

If you're serious that this is what you want to do your whole life then there's more! Get really good at linux and look up BSD, see if you think BSD would be a better alternative (IMO it is, but why learn two?!). You need to know about security - web securitry, host security (like linux security's file permisions, and much more) and a little bit of network security so you know what you're doing.

I dought if this forum appreciates this but what I did to learn is use places like the pirate bay to download book after book after book and with them I learned to program, and use linux and BSD (okay I'm not that good at BSD yet). I also have a flavor of linux installed on my laptop.

Of course you also need to write decent words. And use photoshop.

Also some things for you to look up that you may choose to learn to do: SEO, marketing, logo design, errm what else guys?

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Old 08-18-2009, 03:04 PM Re: Another noob out to learn web-design/development
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When I was a noob I did very simple steps.
Learn:
HTML
  • make simple website(s) until you feel comfortable with the syntax
    Use W3schools as a reference
    Avoid Dreamweaver as it will show you the wrong way to do everything
CSS
  • make simple website(s) until you feel comforatable with the syntax
    Use W3schools as a reference
    Avoid Dreamweaver as it teaches you NOTHING! Try Aptana or other tool. Use google or just try out 10 ides and pick one.
Graphics
  • Research what software you want to use or what are available to you. My suggestion is to use adobe products, photoshop, flash, and illistrator. They are the most popular thus have the most resources to learn off of in terms of web design.
When you get stuck(yes you will get stuck... A LOT) google your problem or go to w3schools if it is syntax related. At last resort post your problem here. Anything else, PM me.

Also don't worry about hosting any websites. Just learn how to build one and when you are feeling good buy a domain and host it. Good luck.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:04 PM Re: Another noob out to learn web-design/development
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OK, since all of you are against using Dreamweaver, I dump the idea.
I have learnt quite a lot of HTML already. Just haven't memorized the syntaxes yet, but all else seemed quite easy.
I haven't started with CSS yet, but I've heard from some of my elder brother's friends that CSS is a lot more difficult than HTML.
Any thoughts.
BTW, for graphics also I'll have to learn PS and Flash. So its a long way to go.Any ideas about PS and Flash tutes? I'll be using the free versions but I'm waiting for a good source of tutorials because the time-limit will expire if I installed them already
@Nill...........OMG I'll have to learn Linux too!!!!
But why, I mean I'm not hosting my site on my server, I 'll be using the servers of some web-host right?! So why do I need to learn Linux. I do have a Ubuntu Live DVD so there is no problem in learning it, but that'd be wasting time if I don't need to host on a server of my own. Maybe I don't get it? Could you explain?
One more thing.........how will I be paid to edit a CMS I'm using?(It all does come down to money, in the end)
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