Originally Posted by chrishirst

No it is NOT better.

bandwidth is the capacity of the connection and would determine the transfer RATE NOT the transfer limit.

While I agree with you that "Bandwidth is the capacity of the connection and determines the transfer rate and not the transfer limit" I completely disagree with your "No it is NOT better" statement.

It is because the word "Bandwidth" has become an accepted term in the web hosting industry and almost all the big hosting providers use the word "Bandwidth" to mean "Data transfer limit" and more people are comfortable with it rather than the "Data transfer limit"

I hope you are not browsing the online dictionaries or going through the Oxford and American Heritage Dictionaries in between your posts .

Another thing is it is not just "Transfer limit" but "Data Transfer Limit", if you want to use that phrase. You surely are not transferring your monies from your hosting company to the visitors computer.

Notice how we both knew to use the term Transfer limit? While you, again, fell short - and still believe you're right?

We're better than HostGator because we don't lie to our customers, we don't oversell our servers, and we provide everything that has been advertised. We took the time to analyze what competitive rates would draw us in enough profit, so that we don't have to resort to overselling. That's what being a good web host is all about.

All of the webspace that has been advertised in our Plans, can be used 100% at any time. You can't say the same for hostgator.

You're acting like telling someone to upgrade is a big deal. Do you think HostGator wouldn't? There are people who signup just to abuse the server, and others who have far outgrown shared hosting.

Originally Posted by andrei155

Notice how we both knew to use the term Transfer limit? While you, again, fell short - and still believe you're right?

We're better than HostGator because we don't lie to our customers, we don't oversell our servers, and we provide everything that has been advertised. We took the time to analyze what competitive rates would draw us in enough profit, so that we don't have to resort to overselling. That's what being a good web host is all about.

All of the webspace that has been advertised in our Plans, can be used 100% at any time. You can't say the same for hostgator.

LOL, It's not falling short! It's more talking in terms which are more understandable to people rather than to those tech geeks. USAGE comes first and not the actual meaning and definitions of words. You (both of you, or just both the accounts of you (stubbornly singular here, either andre or chris) fell short yourself, It's not "Transfer Limit" it is "Data Transfer Limit" if you want to use that phrase.

And, What use is it if we have got a lot of resources but there is no advantage in the service or using the resources? With your hosting service, your customers can't guarantee that their websites are online 24 hours a day. According to what you say on your bldhosting website, there may be a 0.96 hour (57.6 minutes, let's say almost one hour) downtime a DAY to the sites that are hosted with you.

Imagine what a big amount a customer of yours may lose if he depends on your hosting service for his costly keyword adwords campaign websites.

Originally Posted by andrei155

There are people who signup just to abuse the server

That's why, after checking your "Terms" page I said you are one of the most unprofessional web hosts I know. I have got nothing against you, but what people need is "Real Information". That's why I say you haven't yet experienced the best* of web hosting industry.

"Telling someone to upgrade is a big deal"?????

Yea, It's a big a deal, especially when a person signed up with you after seeing your TOS page and then when he set up his sites and started drawing some good traffic in a couple of days you tell him to upgrade to a VPS or Dedi-Server just because his little pHp script is using a lot of CPU resources or because his proxy site is unstabilizing the server, even when he hasn't yet used 1% his disk space and bandwidth.

I suggest you should come up with a good Terms or Service page to protect you from having to pay some penalty in (some very rare) law suits by those angry customers.

And also, have you got any page where you show your servers' status like uptime, downtime, CPU load etc.

Data transfer limit to be pedantic.

You tried to prove me wrong because I said "Transfer Limit". You thought that bandwidth was the actual term, when in reality, you were wrong. Bandwidth is the WRONG term for what I'm referring to. Next time you try to insult someone - I might make sure you know what you're talking about.

It is highly unlikely that anyone could do that, considering we don't overcrowd our servers. We also reserve the right to deem anyone as a "Resource Hog" - as it states in our ToS - that you oh so carefully read. Our Terms of Service is perfectly fine, we simply refuse to restrict our customers in the way the HostGator does. If it's legal, host it. I don't care if you upload a backup of your HD on our web space, that's what it's there for.

I can't stop Google from deciding to host their website with our Shared Hosting. It isn't my fault if a website with that magnitude, doesn't understand that he may need a dedicated server, or a DC in Google's Case . I can however recognize the problem, provide a refund if necessary, and point them towards an alternative solution.

If you have anymore questions about BLD Hosting, please PM me. I'm not here to discuss this point with you. I have nothing more to say regarding my Company - except the fact that you are right about the Uptime Guarantee. I'll give you that. I was meaning on changing the value, however I really haven't had any time.

I would, however, love to continue proving to you that unlimited Hosting is a very shady practice.

Originally Posted by andrei155

Notice how we both knew to use the term Transfer limit? While you, again, fell short - and still believe you're right?

Yea, You are too great andrei, You know it is "transfer limit", But you still use the word "BANDWIDTH" to refer to "Data Transfer Limit" on your website here http://www.bldhosting.net/terms.php.

Well, Is there any place (in this forum, where you advertise your hosting service) where we can discuss if your hosting service is good or BAD and WHY kind of questions? I have been taking lightly on your hosting service which is full of lies. Let's choose a place on this forum and end this argument with either "BLD hosting is Good" or "BLD hosting is CRAPPY" kind of conclusion.

Also check this page http://forums.digitalpoint.com/searc...rchid=15752736 Where "someone" is promoting many offers of your BLD hosting with even an "Unlimited Master Reseller" offer. If the above link doesn't work visit this link http://forums.digitalpoint.com/member.php?u=218499 (the user profile of "blackflagwtf", You can even search that username in google and it will give you the user profile on forums.digitalpoint.com) and then click "Find all threads started by "blackflagwtf" and then you can see for yourself the true colors of bldhosting.

"I think people need to know the truth". That's why I posted this post even after you told me to PM you regarding any queries about your hosting.

Offering an "Unlimited Master Reseller" account is somewhat different to offering "Unlimited Hosting"

What you are selling there is a package where the reseller client becomes responsible for managing THEIR clients resource usage. Basically an "unlimited master reseller" account is pretty much a virtual server package with a different name.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Offering an "Unlimited Master Reseller" account is somewhat different to offering "Unlimited Hosting"

What you are selling there is a package where the reseller client becomes responsible for managing THEIR clients resource usage. Basically an "unlimited master reseller" account is pretty much a virtual server package with a different name.

It's funny that you talk like that .

What I want to know is "Do you support what he did"? Or "Do you think what he did is not wrong at all"? My next response would depend on the answers you provide to those questions..

When I click the link, I see no such page. Also, I assure you that's not me. It looks like one of my sales agents was promoting something they weren't supposed to - I'll have to take a look at this. My account on DP is "andrei155", which was banned awhile ago - and I haven't been on since. Well, maybe once to see if the ban was lifted (and it has been).

Also, you can have any opinion you want about BLD Hosting. It is not my place to change your state of mind. We're an honest hosting Company, and upfront about everything.

Edit:
Now, that I read Chris's post - he may be right. The agent may have been referring to a VPS, as we really never got into the whole MAster Reseller thing. We tested it out for a bit, but decided to drop it.

Well Steve, I'm on vacation over at puerto plata. I won't be here to answer any of your questions. Maybe once every other day.

Originally Posted by andrei155

When I click the link, I see no such page. Also, I assure you that's not me. It looks like one of my sales agents was promoting something they weren't supposed to - I'll have to take a look at this. My account on DP is "andrei155", which was banned awhile ago - and I haven't been on since. Well, maybe once to see if the ban was lifted (and it has been).

If you can't see the second link which is working (the user profile of "blackflagwtf"), probably you can have a better look here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1156501 (the direct link of that "unlimited Master Reseller offer") It seems it is very fortunate of your existing customers, Nobody actually cared about that offer of that particular thread.

Also, you can have any opinion you want about BLD Hosting. It is not my place to change your state of mind. We're an honest hosting Company, and upfront about everything.

Yes, I have my own opinion about BLD hosting now, Anyone who can see those links can have the same opinion, EVEN YOUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS.

Edit:
Now, that I read Chris's post - he may be right. The agent may have been referring to a VPS, as we really never got into the whole MAster Reseller thing. We tested it out for a bit, but decided to drop it.

Chris is "NOT" RIGHT. He will never be. Anyone in his right mind never equates a "Unlimited Master Reseller Plan" with a "VPS" plan.

Also, it seems the sales agents of BLD Hosting have more power than the CEO of the same company. They can do everything, they can offer "Unlimited Offers" on other forums and they can EVEN GET ACCESS TO THE CORPORATE WEBSITE OF YOUR WEB HOSTING SERVICE, That is BLD hosting. It is because whatever links of your site they gave in those threads are STILL WORKING AND YOU CAN EVEN SIGN UP FOR THAT UNLIMITED MASTER RESELLER OFFER NOW.

The next time when you employ new sales executives, Make sure they are not given the site access to offer whatever offers they feel like, and at least to inform you before they offer those kind of "Unlimited Master Reseller" offer which is against the policy of your web hosting (BLD Hosting -- No overselling). LOL .

Also the sign up process of your site for that particular offer can be screen captured, can even be recorded in video format (BTW, I just downloaded CamStudio free screen recorder).

There should be a limit to "Support Fraud".

Ok, I am sorry, I am not going to post in this thread anymore. The Original thread is about something else and we made this a discussion of your (andrei155) web hosting service. Again sorry for diverting the topic.

This thread is bearded one. And it has own topic and scene. If you want to post your question or point of view better posts that as separate thread

A master reseller gives you the possible ability to offer Shared and Reseller accounts. A VPS gives you the possible ability to offer Shared and Reseller accounts.

I am highly against unlimited offers, so I don't know what he was thinking. Also, sales agents would obviously have access to our order and billing panels... that's their job. If someone had ordered that, I would've refunded their money - and given them as much time as they needed to transfer web hosts. It's a mistake - and no one's perfect. No, not even BLD Hosting .

Sales aents have access to our ourder panel, so that they may accomodate the needs of current and future customers. They are there to create discounts, offer "special" deals, and create refunds. I don't see how "power" has anything to do with this.

You've stated your opinion, from a vague perspective. I doubt you have anything else to say. Quite an investigation you have going here!

If you have ANY MORE questions, please feel free to drop me a PM.

Back to the sun for me .

Originally Posted by andrei155

A master reseller gives you the possible ability to offer Shared and Reseller accounts. A VPS gives you the possible ability to offer Shared and Reseller accounts.

I am highly against unlimited offers, so I don't know what he was thinking. Also, sales agents would obviously have access to our order and billing panels... that's their job. If someone had ordered that, I would've refunded their money - and given them as much time as they needed to transfer web hosts. It's a mistake - and no one's perfect. No, not even BLD Hosting .

Sales aents have access to our ourder panel, so that they may accomodate the needs of current and future customers. They are there to create discounts, offer "special" deals, and create refunds. I don't see how "power" has anything to do with this.

You've stated your opinion, from a vague perspective. I doubt you have anything else to say. Quite an investigation you have going here!

If you have ANY MORE questions, please feel free to drop me a PM.

Back to the sun for me .

Unlimited Master Reseller is the same as VPS? Are you kidding me?

You have got quite a few number of DP accounts, Right? andreu155, andrei155, blackflagwtf

Probably he was being sarcastic about the "Power" talk. How can any sales agent do that if the company is strictly a NO-NO Overselling? If he did it on his own, "web hosting" was right, your sales agent did have more power than you, he had the authority to do than without even informing you .

I hope, You are not "Jason T" who scammed all the DP members with his scam Forcium Hosting.

Who's Jason T...? I'm the owner of BLD Hosting. It's rather fishy that you'd be posting in this thread, as your first post. Please don't throw accusations around.

You are correct, I own both andreu155 and andrei155. I think this is why I was ultimatley banned. One is a spelling error of the other, the u is right by the i on keyboards . I contacted DP about removing it - and I received no answer. I actually forgot about the other.

I did not say that Master Resellers and VPS's were the same. I merely said that everything a Master Reseller can do, a VPS can do - plus more. The term Master Reseller refers to the ability to offer reseller accounts. This can be accomplished through a) a ****ty Master Reseller addon for whatever control Panel, or b) a VPS.

your sales agent did have more power than you, he had the authority to do than without even informing you

So, you're saying that everytime someone breaks the law, they have more power over our Judicial system? Samuel made a mistake, and I'll be having a chat with him soon.

You are correct, we are a non overselling company. We have not oversold any of our servers resources.

It's rather fishy that you'd be posting in this thread, as your first post. Please don't throw accusations around.

Hmm? ...

it was helpfull tnx