Do you like them? What are the good and bad things about them, could you rate them on a scale of 1-10. I ask this just getting general feedback as it seems the top three bad things are lack of communication, the time span in any communication that is given and over selling.

Interesting that you should post about webhosts
There is such a large number which makes webhosting cheaper for us webmasters

I suppose the choice of webhost depends on the requirements for the particular website and personal preference

Godaddy for example has what is in my opinion a great hosting service but because it does not use cpanel i think it uses hosting central, some webmasters are not comfortable with it

Originally Posted by cyndi

Do you like them? What are the good and bad things about them, could you rate them on a scale of 1-10. I ask this just getting general feedback as it seems the top three bad things are lack of communication, the time span in any communication that is given and over selling.

Overselling is not really a bad thing, it helps keep costs low. It is overloading that causes the problems there is a specific amount of overselling you can do that will never be noticed and that is fine but 348972 gigaflops for $5 I mean common. Communication is Key to anything related to business, if you cant get a hold of a web host, or any vendor for that matter its time to find another.

Originally Posted by Jag-Nick

Overselling is not really a bad thing, it helps keep costs low. It is overloading that causes the problems there is a specific amount of overselling you can do that will never be noticed and that is fine but 348972 gigaflops for $5 I mean common. Communication is Key to anything related to business, if you cant get a hold of a web host, or any vendor for that matter its time to find another.

If you're running an online business i'd bite the bullet and just pay the extra 30 bucks a month to get a good business host that doesn't oversell at all.

and just pay the extra 30 bucks a month to get a good business host that doesn't oversell at all.

Trouble is, what "doesn't oversell at all" means? What does it mean with reference to internal memory or CPU usage for example? That's usually the real cap in a shared hosting environment anyway, and the $30 you mentioned will essentially give you more of those, because you're paying more. The issue is not the overselling of disk or data transfer, but the expectations of customers, which, true, hosts don't educate at all.

I think that he doesn't feel involved in overselling process and get all what he pays for at least

Originally Posted by ECSuite_Russell

If you're running an online business i'd bite the bullet and just pay the extra 30 bucks a month to get a good business host that doesn't oversell at all.

You have 2 options a Xen Based VPS, or Windows VPS, or a Dedicated Server. But even then is the provider going to have a full 100mbps of bandwidth reserved for your server? I think not nothing is not oversold in this market. Look at any host, ask them their number of servers, then ask them the network uplinks, fir example SoftLayer has 22gbps of bandwidth but they sell GigE ports, that would support 22 servers on GigE ports, when they really have 10-15,000 servers. Its all oversold.

Originally Posted by ldcdc

Trouble is, what "doesn't oversell at all" means? What does it mean with reference to internal memory or CPU usage for example?

'Doesn't oversell at all' means doesn't oversell at all. What you pay for is what you get.

I'm not sure exactly how internal memory and cpu usage issues are handled by everyone. I'd have to talk to our own data center technicians to find out how we handle shared. My understanding though is that the server each client is placed on is relative to their needs and what those usages are. We don't have a bunch of cookie cutter boxes. If they're eating up the cpu and memory like crazy they'll be put on a box that can handle it.

That's usually the real cap in a shared hosting environment anyway, and the $30 you mentioned will essentially give you more of those, because you're paying more.

I can't really hold quarry with that. What you pay for is what you get.

The issue is not the overselling of disk or data transfer, but the expectations of customers, which, true, hosts don't educate at all.

If the client still has issues, using the examples I wrote above, they likely didn't pick, or didn't want to pay for, a hosting plan appropriate to what their needs were.

Originally Posted by Jag-Nick

Look at any host, ask them their number of servers, then ask them the network uplinks, fir example SoftLayer has 22gbps of bandwidth but they sell GigE ports, that would support 22 servers on GigE ports, when they really have 10-15,000 servers. Its all oversold.

Not sure I fully understand this post.. How does SoftLayer have an arbitrary 22gbps. Are they a reseller? If they can manage to sell 22gbps they should be able to buy more bandwidth, right?

We sell GigE ports as well, we also sell 10GigE ports, Not sure on an exact uplink number but we have datacenters for colocation, CDN, and bandwidth across North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.

But even then is the provider going to have a full 100mbps of bandwidth reserved for your server? I think not nothing is not oversold in this market.

Yes, if they paid for a 100mbps commitment, 100mbps is what they would get. Our primary carriers are Level3, Savvis and Highwinds, if we need to sell more bandwidth than we have, we get more bandwidth to sell, we don't start shaving off the top.

Why does that concept seem to be so alien?

^ Self promotion?

Didn't intend to but didn't like the way people responded to my initial comment. Just wanted to drive home the point that a hosting company can exist without overselling.

hey, it seems that I posted that relating to the wrong post! I didn't mean that you were self promoting!

I agree 100% with your post. Overselling is not a necessity, it is just used to real in more clients, and money. I feel as if it is just like cheating clients, not giving them what they pay for. Not allowing them to use the space they purchase.

is there a sudden break in topic or iam wrong
just what know how overselling can really affect the performance that the user wants
just curious from all the post from above

What you meant by that? What about overselling?

I've written an article on overselling on my website, located at www.bldhosting.net/overselling.php

It should answer your questions, corleone745.

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i do like my web hosting so far no problem encountered yet.

Than why you no like your web hosting providers?

The control panel not user friendly enough?


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