Paying someone to get you listed in DMOZ

**lisa1979** · 03-26-2006, 10:32 AM

Hi All

My first post (As you can tell I[m a newbie to websites)

Is it possible to pay a company to look and modify your own site and then for them to submit it and get it listed on DMOZ?

Thanks

Lisa

**vangogh** · 03-26-2006, 04:38 PM

The DMOZ is a directory maintained by volunteers who are under no obligation to list any site. You can certainly pay someone to help submit a site to them, but it's not going to get you in any faster if at all.

It's a great link to have I agree, but your best bet with DMOZ is to read the gudelines for submission and then submit your site. After you've submitted it it's best to just forget about it and move on to other things. You either will or won't get accepted and it can take a matter of days or years.

One thing I have noticed is that if your site is associated with a local addess you can submit your site in the regional section. You want to drill down to the most local area you can and submit there. It's usually a lot easier to get your site included that way.

**ADAM Web Design** · 03-27-2006, 09:39 PM

What vangogh said. There's no way to pay to get into DMOZ...it would "defeat the spirit of the directory" (but the mob mentality doesn't.)

Basically, find the lowest-level category you can for your site, submit it, and then be done with it.

If you resubmit, you get moved to the back of the line.
If you complain, you get moved to the rejected line.
If you ask why DMOZ sucks such an incredible amount of seagull turd, you will not get an answer, and you'll probably never get listed.

So submit, let it go, and don't think about it again. If it happens, great. If not, submit to the other 50000000 directories that will take you.

**vangogh** · 03-28-2006, 05:52 PM

Exactly Adam. There'a lot out of directories out there and the DMOZ is only one. I think it's still a pretty good directory, but it's just one.

**hyipo** · 12:52 AM

There needs to be new directories so we have more ways to get big!

The only problem is we have to get into dmoz, or yahoo even more because just recently Zeal closed down, and all it's listings got removed and zeal could have helped our rankings.

The only free huge , "And Only" directories are DMOZ and Yahoo.

The other problem is if we can't get into Yahoo, and DMOZ we are all doomed because their are sooooo many websites (Billions to Trillions) how are we going to stand out of a crowd if we don't get added to DMOZ, or Yahoo.

**vangogh** · 03-29-2006, 01:12 AM

Yahoo is only free for non commercial websites. For the rest of us it costs $299 a year to be listed. There are a lot and I mean a lot of successful websites that aren't listed in either DMOZ or Yahoo. They can help, but they're just two directories. There are many more directories and quite honestly many other often better places to get links.

**chrishirst** · 03-29-2006, 03:26 AM

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The other problem is if we can't get into Yahoo, and DMOZ we are all doomed because their are sooooo many websites (Billions to Trillions) how are we going to stand out of a crowd if we don't get added to DMOZ, or Yahoo.

Maybe you have to do something really radical, like have a good site that people will link to and want to visit. What a concept eh!

**worknhardatit** · 04-16-2006, 03:44 AM

I have a lot of #1 and top #4 important (to our business) keywords in yahoo and on google they're 80-200. Why? The person who controls the dmoz listing for our product is probably a competitor. There are only a handful of sites that are let in, many of which suck or don't sell online, that's why I think the person in charge there is a competitor selling online.

I followed all of the guidelines to get listed, we even had a brick and mortar place at the time as well as having a trademarked name, exclusive product, but still no answer 2 years later. In the mean time we spend $3000 a month on PPC because we make around $30K in sales form google ads. What a scam, eh?

**worknhardatit** · 04-16-2006, 03:45 AM

Forgot to add that the way google's algo reads, if your not in dmoz, you're worth less than a cup of warm spit. You'll never make top 20 for any important keywords.

**worknhardatit** · 04-16-2006, 03:46 AM

I'll look for the proof to back that claim tomorrow, signing off. If someone can beat me to it, by all means.

**chrishirst** · 04-16-2006, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by worknhardatit

Forgot to add that the way google's algo reads, if your not in dmoz, you're worth less than a cup of warm spit. You'll never make top 20 for any important keywords.

if you think a DMOZ listing makes that much difference you are in the wrong game.

I have sites that have never been submitted to DMOZ never mind listed, 'cos I don't bother submitting, all have perfectly good conversions.

**vangogh** · 04-16-2006, 03:53 PM

You do not need a DMOZ listing to be ranked for keywords. A DMOZ listing is a good link, but it's far from the only one and to think it's a requirement of being found in a search engine is nonsense.

**alpha** · 04-19-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

What vangogh said. There's no way to pay to get into DMOZ...it would "defeat the spirit of the directory" (but the mob mentality doesn't.)

Basically, find the lowest-level category you can for your site, submit it, and then be done with it.

If you resubmit, you get moved to the back of the line.
If you complain, you get moved to the rejected line.
If you ask why DMOZ sucks such an incredible amount of seagull turd, you will not get an answer, and you'll probably never get listed.

So submit, let it go, and don't think about it again. If it happens, great. If not, submit to the other 50000000 directories that will take you.

Yes DMOZ is a pain to deal with. I had submitted one of my sites over a year ago. Was never listed. Does not know why. Looked at all their rules and I don't think that my site violated any of their rules. The only thing that I suspect is that one of the editors did not want my site listed in the category as he probably views my site as a competitor.

**vangogh** · 04-19-2006, 04:57 PM

Not getting a DMOZ listing doesn't automatically mean one of the editors was purposely keeping you out of the directory. I'm sure it happens, but I really doubt it goes on as often as people seem to think.

DMOZ editors are all volunteers and are under no obligation to list sites in the queue or even look at them for that matter. They may review sites that have been submitted and they may also add sites to the directory that they find on their own.

Could the submission process at DMOZ be improved? Yes it could and has been discussed for years. But keep in mind the DMOZ is not about listing every site that submits. That's not now nor has it ever been the goal. In fact the idea was to be selective in listing sites to build what they considered a better directory. Whether or not they've been successful is a question. I would suspect that many people would say they're not successful while others would say they have been to some degree at least.

My own site isn't listed where I would like it to be, but I don't hold that against the directory. My site belongs to a rather crowded category and may never be included there.

No matter what you think of the DMOZ though being including in the directory is not going to make or break a site. There are many sites included that will never be found in a search engine and many that will never be included that are often found in searches. I agree it's a good link to have and I wish I had it for my site, but it's not the only link.

Submit your site to the DMOZ as best you can according to the guidleines and then forget about. You either will or won't be included, but it's not worth worrying about. If you happen to know an editor then by all means ask them if they can help you out. Otherwise move on the building a better site and getting links from other sources.

**funlounge** · 04-26-2006, 04:29 AM

I am puzzled about DMOZ as they seem to be either dead or about to...

I have my site http://www.mobile-fun.org to the mobile phone add-ons category ,
joined as a volunteer editor, even contacted the other editor by e-mail,
but never got any reply for two months now...
Not even to confirm my application or refuse it ...

or is it part of the process ?

**alexbill** · 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by funlounge

I am puzzled about DMOZ as they seem to be either dead or about to...

I have my site http://www.mobile-fun.org to the mobile phone add-ons category ,
joined as a volunteer editor, even contacted the other editor by e-mail,
but never got any reply for two months now...
Not even to confirm my application or refuse it ...

or is it part of the process ?

The same thing happened to me also. Since I lived in the state that I am going to be editor of I signed up to be a editor, confirmed the email address, and then not a word. Nothing, Zit, Zilch. Zero. I am wondering what is going on with them. I have monitored what happened to Zeal and it's like nobody did anything when they were going to close down they did nothing, no quality quotient, no way to become a Zealot and I passed the Zeal quiz, and the Zealot quiz and then they teared down. Maybe DMOZ is closing down like Zeal and maybe we will all have to start paying fees to Yahoo. Think of it without competition Yahoo can scrape up the prices to like $800.00 per submission and a $400 a month recurring fee. Then that will be like Hurricane Katrina of rankings because lots of people won't be able to afford $800 and recurring fee and then have their rankings shot down to the ground.