Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?

**trichnosis** · 01:26 AM

i think msn is search engine that needs to be improved so much . when i try to search on msn , first page is full of spam

**vangogh** · 01-19-2007, 11:52 AM

Which is why many people will say it's easier to optimize a site for MSN. Many of the old spammy techniques will still work get a page ranked in MSN.

**willcode4beer** · 02-07-2007, 08:58 AM

I'm not sure MSN ranking is really useful.
For everything significant to my site, I rank really high on MSN whereas I could be 5th to 9th page on google. Yet, google sends 70% of my traffic, MSN is currently around 0.5%.
Then again, maybe it just depends on your sites topic and audience.

**vangogh** · 01:38 AM

But which one sends more traffic that converts into customers. It may be Google, but depending on your topic you might find MSN searches end up being the ones who spend the money.

It's not just about traffic. Traffic is good for the most part, but I'd rather have one visit that leads to a sale than 1000 visits that lead to none.

For some topics the MSN crowd may turn out to be better for your business even if less of them arrive on your site.

**Learning Newbie** · 02-07-2007, 10:04 PM

It doesn't matter.

How are you going to get the people who don't know about your site yet to use MSN instead of Google for all their searches because you rank better?

**willcode4beer** · 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vangogh

But which one sends more traffic that converts into customers. It may be Google, but depending on your topic you might find MSN searches end up being the ones who spend the money.

It's not just about traffic. Traffic is good for the most part, but I'd rather have one visit that leads to a sale than 1000 visits that lead to none.

For some topics the MSN crowd may turn out to be better for your business even if less of them arrive on your site.

I think you are absolutely correct. Since mine is informational, I try to focus on being helpful.
Right now according the goog analytics, the average visitor on my site is there for almost 10 mins.
If you focus on being useful and getting traffic that would find your site useful, everybody benefits. Besides, why pay for bandwidth for traffic that doesn't want to be there.

**hiredesigner** · 02-08-2007, 01:37 AM

I dont think so that MSN is better than google. If the question is of being ranked in top 10 in MSN and nowhere in google, simply depends on their algorithm. MSN, i think considers the meta tags.

**ITGuy** · 02-08-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stOx

I have found MSN asks less from a website than google does, So i guess that makes it easier to rank well.. But then, It will be easier for everyone, So does that really make it easier for an individual to rank well?

It's like running 50M is easier than running 1000M, But if everyone is only running 50M it doesn't make winning any easier.

I 100% agree with this? But the point, which search engine does give you more related contents to your search???

**Danny Lawson** · 02-08-2007, 10:32 AM

Well I haven't focused on MSN but for Google I found it to be very easy and I think SEO will be much easier with MSN and Yahoo.

**kbtsup** · 02-14-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sylwester

It's simple, but less traffic than from G and Y.

My experience with one site: If I consider Google+Yahoo+Msn=100% traffic, then the share of Google is 70%, Yahoo is 15%, and Msn is 15%.

That should depend on many factors, anyway.

**Ar3d** · 02-23-2007, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WebSurfer

On one of my sites, MSN gives me a top 5 keyword placement, while on Google, I wasn't even on the first page. And MSN indexed the whole site, while Google had only indexed the main page. I've noticed this for other websites as well. So do you think SEO is easier with MSN?

ya, i think so.. because some also of keywords are already in MSN but not in google.. as far i know, in three major search engine msn is easiest to index a site not just like in google which the most difficult...

**IPsecure** · 02-26-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hhheng

Maybe some days later, your rank in MSN will be dropped to 10 pages away. MSN ranking is not so stable, it keeps up and down for my pages.

You'd better submit a sitemap file to google to help index your internal pages.

I've seen this with a few of my sites. One day i am number one the next i'm not listed on the first 10 pages. At least google doesn't tease me they keep me on page 10 all the time.

**businessideas** · 02-26-2007, 09:52 PM

it's the easiest search engine to get top rankings in, but it's the one of the top 3 that brings the least amount of traffic

**Gracia** · 04-25-2007, 06:07 AM

Yes, I personally feel so.

**sheena** · 04-30-2007, 03:08 AM

MSN appears to be easier to rank for keywords. Although there is a problem with the link command for inbound links, still the keyword ranks well.

**chrishirst** · 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sheena

Although there is a problem with the link command for inbound links,

I guess you really don't take any notice of the answers!

http://www.webmaster-talk.com/msn-fo...und-links.html

**luvlyn** · 05-01-2007, 04:35 AM

yes, i usually focus on Google ranking and they comes on MSN too!

**BruceWayne** · 05-01-2007, 04:56 AM

Just concentrate on the GG and Y and you'll get listed on MSN along the way.

**temyong** · 05-03-2007, 07:05 AM

For me its true MSN is easier, also yahoo density is the key to be on top of yahoo search engine.While in Google must build quality link.

**gringo** · 05-03-2007, 12:09 PM

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01-19-2007, 09:13 AM	#21 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
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01-19-2007, 11:52 AM	#22 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
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02-08-2007, 01:37 AM	#27 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
hiredesigner Experienced Talker Posts: 34 Name: keyur parmar Talkupation:	I dont think so that MSN is better than google. If the question is of being ranked in top 10 in MSN and nowhere in google, simply depends on their algorithm. MSN, i think considers the meta tags. __________________ ASP Senna traders Senna leaf Senna pods

02-26-2007, 09:52 PM	#33 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
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02-07-2007, 08:58 AM	#23 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
willcode4beer Webmaster Talker Posts: 525 Name: Paul Davis Location: San Francisco Talkupation:	I'm not sure MSN ranking is really useful. For everything significant to my site, I rank really high on MSN whereas I could be 5th to 9th page on google. Yet, google sends 70% of my traffic, MSN is currently around 0.5%. Then again, maybe it just depends on your sites topic and audience.

02-07-2007, 10:04 PM	#25 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
Learning Newbie Moderator Latest Blog Post: My Favorite Isaac Asimov Story Posts: 4,068 Name: John Alexander Talkupation:	It doesn't matter. How are you going to get the people who don't know about your site yet to use MSN instead of Google for all their searches because you rank better?

02-08-2007, 10:32 AM	#29 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
Danny Lawson Novice Talker Posts: 5 Name: Danny Lawson Talkupation:	Well I haven't focused on MSN but for Google I found it to be very easy and I think SEO will be much easier with MSN and Yahoo.

04-25-2007, 06:07 AM	#34 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
Gracia Registered User Posts: 16 Name: Rana Talkupation:	Yes, I personally feel so.

04-30-2007, 03:08 AM	#35 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
sheena Registered User Posts: 214 Talkupation:	MSN appears to be easier to rank for keywords. Although there is a problem with the link command for inbound links, still the keyword ranks well.

05-01-2007, 04:35 AM	#37 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
luvlyn Extreme Talker Posts: 211 Talkupation:	yes, i usually focus on Google ranking and they comes on MSN too!

05-01-2007, 04:56 AM	#38 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
BruceWayne Extreme Talker Posts: 182 Talkupation:	Just concentrate on the GG and Y and you'll get listed on MSN along the way.

05-03-2007, 07:05 AM	#39 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
temyong Average Talker Posts: 21 Talkupation:	For me its true MSN is easier, also yahoo density is the key to be on top of yahoo search engine.While in Google must build quality link.

05-03-2007, 12:09 PM	#40 (permalink) Re: Do you think SEO is easier with MSN?
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