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Old 05-29-2004, 08:47 AM Totally strange Google phenomenon
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First sorry for posting links here but it's the only way to explain my problem!


Please help me out here and see if you can explain this for for me. I have 'never' seen it done on any other website.

I have two websites that are on 'completely' different servers.

http://www.ebooks-marketplace.com
http://www.dogtrainingpro.com

Now if I do a backlink check on the ebooks site it shows 130 incoming links. Now if you do a backlink check on the dog training site it shows 'exactly' the same links as the ebooks site. Totally the same. In reality the dog training site only has about 10 incoming links.

Now the funny thing is if I do a cached snapshot of the ebooks marketplace home page, it shows the 'dogtrainingpro' home page.

Can any one expain why this happens. It's totally confusing me.

Does the dogtrainingpro.com have a PR5 just because it is showing the links from the ebooks site.

Thanks to all who can shed some light on this totally strange Google phenomenon.
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Old 05-30-2004, 10:32 AM
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Looks to me like you had the dog content hosted on the e-books site. I can't think of ny other explanation.


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First sorry for posting links here but it's the only way to explain my problem!


Please help me out here and see if you can explain this for for me. I have 'never' seen it done on any other website.

I have two websites that are on 'completely' different servers.

http://www.ebooks-marketplace.com
http://www.dogtrainingpro.com

Now if I do a backlink check on the ebooks site it shows 130 incoming links. Now if you do a backlink check on the dog training site it shows 'exactly' the same links as the ebooks site. Totally the same. In reality the dog training site only has about 10 incoming links.

Now the funny thing is if I do a cached snapshot of the ebooks marketplace home page, it shows the 'dogtrainingpro' home page.

Can any one expain why this happens. It's totally confusing me.

Does the dogtrainingpro.com have a PR5 just because it is showing the links from the ebooks site.

Thanks to all who can shed some light on this totally strange Google phenomenon.
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Old 05-30-2004, 11:22 AM
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Looks to me like you had the dog content hosted on the e-books site. I can't think of ny other explanation.
I thought this myself. If I had accidentely uploaded the dogtraining index page to the ebooks site and by change googlebot came along, but when you do a cache of ebooks marketplace, it 'does say' This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.dogtrainingpro.com and not www.ebooks-marketplace.com

I have contacted Google about but no reply or changes as yet.

It's wierd.
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:09 PM
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I thought this myself. If I had accidentely uploaded the dogtraining index page to the ebooks site and by change googlebot came along, but when you do a cache of ebooks marketplace, it 'does say' This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.dogtrainingpro.com and not www.ebooks-marketplace.com
I did a WhoIs check on both sites and you have them not only on different servers, but different Registrars and nameservers also. Outside of your name being listed as the registered owner of both sites ... there are no similarities at all.

You are right about the dog site showing up on the e-book cache. For some strange reason, Google is associating dog site with the IP address of the eBook site. My only thought about this is that at one time you had pointed the dog site at the eBook IP in your Registrar control panel for it's name server ... even briefly or accidently, then changed it to the correct name server. Somehow Google picked up on this and they now have it set that way in their lookup index.

I had a problem similar to this last year. We changed a site's name at a dedicated IP address and it took Google 3 month's to recognize the name change. The content was getting indexed correctly, but the name in the cache was that of the old site name (even the Url in the results was the old one.)

While DNS changes usually take 72 hours to propogate thru the Internet ... it does appear to take considerably longer with Google for some reason. You should contact them again, and explain to them that they have the wrong IP assignation for the eBook site right now.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:42 PM
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You are right about the dog site showing up on the e-book cache. For some strange reason, Google is associating dog site with the IP address of the eBook site. My only thought about this is that at one time you had pointed the dog site at the eBook IP in your Registrar control panel for it's name server ... even briefly or accidently, then changed it to the correct name server. Somehow Google picked up on this and they now have it set that way in their lookup index.

You should contact them again, and explain to them that they have the wrong IP assignation for the eBook site right now.
Thanks ronnietheDodger, this seems the most logical answer to me. Only thing is that the only time I have used the control panel for either site is to set up the email accounts. I always use FTP. It really does seem a logical answer though. I will try and get in touch with Google again.

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Old 05-30-2004, 02:47 PM
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Hi all it's Neil again from ebooks-marketplace.com...

It getting more strange.

A cache from ebooks-marketplace.com comes out as dogtrainingpro.com but if we do a search for ebooks power

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=ebooks+power

The top result is ebooks marketplace - Now click on the cache link;

It brings up - ebooks-marketplace.com

I've emailed Google again, we will wait and see!

Here's another question: Does any one what these numbers mean in this Google url: 3yTKve0okP8J

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:3...rketplace.com/

Because that brings up - ebooks marketplace.com

And http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:w...rketplace.com/ brings up dogtrainingpro.com

It's a funny old game
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Old 05-30-2004, 03:07 PM
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It appears that it may be working itself out. It just has not propogated all the way thru yet. I did notice a date of May 28th on that result.

My cache is coming from http://216.239.39.104/search?sourcei...tplace.com%2Fd which is a different datacenter.

Where are you located at???
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Old 05-30-2004, 03:17 PM
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How many redirects do you have going on this site ????

Your directory is chock full of them. I did a site:www.ebooks-marketplace.com and it popped up a few questionable redirects. Here are a couple:

http://www.ebooks-marketplace.com/ca...g-go-cart.html
http://www.ebooks-marketplace.com/fi...hing-gift.html

Now I do not know what the purpose is, and I don't want to know. But maybe at one time you had something like this set up for your dog site at one time ????
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Old 05-30-2004, 03:25 PM
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I think your problem may be on this page http://www.ebooks-marketplace.com/portal.htm. I have my popup blocker on, and it is going crazy with this page. Your dogtrainingpro.com site is on this page too.

My suggestion is that you have something that Google is getting messed up on somewhere in your site. You may want to look at your methods and use of doorways.
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Old 05-30-2004, 03:35 PM
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It appears that it may be working itself out. It just has not propogated all the way thru yet. I did notice a date of May 28th on that result.

My cache is coming from http://216.239.39.104/search?sourcei...tplace.com%2Fd which is a different datacenter.

Where are you located at???
I have updated the ebooks site twice this week and googlebot has caught them twice. So I hope it is sorting it's self out. The site is nearly two years old and this strange cache thing has only happened this month.

I am located in the Uk and both websites are located in the US (You just cannot beat The US service and price)
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Old 06-03-2004, 01:46 PM
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Yeah, I had the same thing happening to me once,. Just chill, it will get back to normal soon.
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Old 06-03-2004, 02:31 PM
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Well thanks every one. It now has sorted it self out. A funny Google update though. Seem to have lost 90% of my backlinks.

Keep on smiling
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:19 PM Re: Totally strange Google phenomenon
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It took me 3 days of solid searching to find someone with the exact same problem...

I used googles webmaster tools to submit a sitemap and also to use www. as preferance since it poinst at the incorrect site.

From what I read above, it was a redirect that cuased the problem.

Thank you Webmaster-Talk the only place on the net I found the same problem.
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Old 11-01-2006, 04:29 AM Re: Totally strange Google phenomenon
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Hi all it's Neil again from ebooks-marketplace.com...

It getting more strange.

A cache from ebooks-marketplace.com comes out as dogtrainingpro.com but if we do a search for ebooks power

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=ebooks+power

The top result is ebooks marketplace - Now click on the cache link;

It brings up - ebooks-marketplace.com

I've emailed Google again, we will wait and see!

Here's another question: Does any one what these numbers mean in this Google url: 3yTKve0okP8J

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:3...rketplace.com/

Because that brings up - ebooks marketplace.com

And http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:w...rketplace.com/ brings up dogtrainingpro.com

It's a funny old game
3yTKve0okP8J seems like google sitemaps - I'd guess that you have them both listed under the same user in sitemaps and Google has somehow mixed them up...
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