Yep although The PHP Code

I haven't written up the walkthrough yet.

but, basically it is;
Get the name value from the querystring;
set up an array of names and destination URIs;

redirect to the URI indicated by the "name";

took a bit longer 'cos I had to recode my file downloader slightly to handle PHP files as well.

O yea i was being thick thats simple Lol.

Good idea, ill have to remember to use that.

Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

Really?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLF,GGLF:2006-19,GGLF:en&q=site%3avtrip%2einfo

You're right...you don't have a free listing. You have approx. 333.

And Google has a bit more of a clue than you might think. After all, they found this page. Who wants drugs? vtrip.info will act as your enabler!

That's the problem with your statement, Ganesh. You claim Google doesn't have a clue, and yet you're one of the people who are clearly trying to screw with Google by doing things exactly like this. Your problem is that they do have a clue, they didn't like the games you play, and now you're throwing the same hissy fit a lot of blackhats do (and a few whitehats with legit beef too, to be totally fair).


If you mean the date Google first indexed the document, I'd agree. If you mean date of document creation, as determined by the host header, then no...that value can easily be manipulated by a tech-savvy loser.

This is Google's biggest issue, and any other search engine's largest issue, as far as relevancy is concerned...dealing with the idiots who will pull every trick in the book and 1000 that got lost on the editing room floor.

1) That's what you think. You're not basing that on any real logic. Just emotion.

I think every get-rich-quick site and anything put out by Danny SullIvan and his band of ***-sucking cronies should never see the light of day, but what I think ultimately means nothing because I'm one human vs. a lot of 'em. You'll have to learn to accept that as well...if you're serious.


No it's not, and this is the webmaster's biggest problem; having to weed through the 999 answers of "improve ur pagerank wit directory submissions" and "i m seo xpert, i can fix ur site, plz pm me detail, i do good work cheap" to find the one answer of "the problem is your site, not Google" that will usually be the one that helps him/her.

By the way, that's the problem in your case, and the silly drug link exchange is only one example (/index.html links and poor site architecture are two others...but I doubt you're really interested.)

Adam,

My Website is merely a 3 layer architecture, Index to continent to Country nothing more.... Now I'm adding about free services.

I'v used all the Linking services to get indexed:

GotLinks
Build-Reciprocal_Links

When I removed the above two for the same reason you showed, within 7 days I got dropped.

The latest I landed is: IndexGuy.

I thought these guys are decent and now you showed me these guys suck as well. Actually I should thank you.

This time instead of removing the whole, I will try to remove the indicated categories, I don't want to show up there.

I've written may webmasters about sharing links do you think they responded (not even a single reply!).

Finally I ended up with free link exchange service, I know it has the good and bad. That's all I got to stay indexed.

I said, If google can't list thats fine for me. I still think they should move away from link popularity, because they created this whole mess of link exchange farms.

Adam, why do you think all the above mentioned Link exchange websites have a PR of 6.

Originally they should have banned the sources instead they kill websites like mine.
I cannot do anything about it, Google will evolve out of this.

I will update the directory setting immediately.

PS: I sent more valid traffic to Adsense, than what google sent me all these years. Now I removed Adsense and leaving it in few pages only. They are going to be gone as well, as I build my Flight services. If they can't send me traffic. why should I?

Originally Posted by sri_gan

Adam, why do you think all the above mentioned Link exchange websites have a PR of 6

Adam, if you don’t mind, I’ll answer this one.

You just said it yourself: link exchange. Without that they are nothing, “0”,
and I don’t mean PR0, content wise “0”



fastreplies

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Adam, if you don’t mind, I’ll answer this one.

You just said it yourself: link exchange. Without that they are nothing, “0”,
and I don’t mean PR0, content wise “0”



fastreplies

fastreplies,

I know PR has no value.... I already know that and it is one of their "signals" . You don't have to remind me.
Can we say all the PR which has above certain amount are spams alone?

Why does google even returns these websites in their searches for the keyword "link exchange" if they are so vicious about this?

Bottom Line: They don't stand for what they say!

Why don't the adwords ad service cannot be an link exchange platform?
Adwords is context based relevant ad display right? Why can't they provide a live link exchange service off of that.

They will not change this because, they will screw their own algorithm.

As I said, Google Initiated it, They have to live with it.

I know PR has no value

It's Toolbar PR that has no value, and REAL PR that is one of the "signals"

Can we say all the PR which has above certain amount are spams alone

Nope.

Why does google even returns these websites in their searches for the keyword "link exchange" if they are so vicious about this

Because Google returns relevant results for your query.

Bottom Line: They don't stand for what they say!

Of course they do

Have other relevant sites link to yours.

Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.

Why don't the adwords ad service cannot be an link exchange platform?

Don't understand this, the double negatives make it meaningless, please explain.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

It's Toolbar PR that has no value, and REAL PR that is one of the "signals"

Ok. May be they think lot of people are obessed with it... so they want people to relax now without it.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Don't understand this, the double negatives make it meaningless, please explain.

Actually what I meant is:

Advertiser pay huge money with Google Adwords to get Listed and they provide the service of choosing the publisher for content match.

Google claims they show relevant ad to the content correct? So the site's content must be relevant to ad publisher correct.

So when they (advertiser) pay so much money for ads, why don't google offer a free link credit since their "algorithm" found a relevant page to place their ad?

If, Google doesn't want paid links and they think its irrelevant to organic search, why don't they offer a "free" service like I said and make the webmaster's life easier.

I think anything from google in relation with organic search is a marketing stunt. nothing more. There are so many companies milking it in the name of seo.

Am I wrong?

you almost had me then you lost me...

yeh i think they are going a bit ott!

Originally Posted by sri_gan

So when they (advertiser) pay so much money for ads, why don't google offer a free link credit since their "algorithm" found a relevant page to place their ad?

Because the links that count towards rankings should be the ones given voluntarily based on the quality of the page - not whether you bought an ad in adwords. You are mixing paid advertising with organic search; they are different.

Originally Posted by sri_gan

So when they (advertiser) pay so much money for ads, why don't google offer a free link credit since their "algorithm" found a relevant page to place their ad?

The links in AdSense are javascript, so they're invisible to Google's spider. They don't therefore count as a link toward ranking.

Originally Posted by sri_gan

, Google doesn't want paid links and they think its irrelevant to organic search, why don't they offer a "free" service like I said and make the webmaster's life easier.

Because Google's stated purpose is to make web users lives easier.

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

The links in AdSense are javascript, so they're invisible to Google's spider. They don't therefore count as a link toward ranking.

I know JS can't count, You know there is something called the Link Unit(which is also in js now), they could have adopted what the paid linking services are doing, They didn't do it of sole reason.

The want to be only one in search (they don't want to mess their own algorithm). Do you think they didn't thought this at all? I can even say they don't trust their content match algorithm closer to their search algorithm.

It a simplest CGI script and easiest to implement in any hosting enviroment(asp / php/ perl covers 80% of sites) .

If seo guys like Text-Link-Ads etc... can do? Why not Google?

I think paid advertisers must think this, because they pay so much money and at the end some time they may get traffic with a huge cost and no benefit of link popularity.

I've cleared the Google Adwords Professional exam as well and I know how much enforcement they put on advertisers as well.


I still don't know why people didn't even think this.

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

Because Google's stated purpose is to make web users lives easier.

. So they can make the advertisers life miserable... huh?


P.S: Guys, don't think i'm attacking Google. I'm trying to bring another view since I'm a technologist as well.

Originally Posted by sri_gan

I think paid advertisers must think this, because they pay so much money and at the end some time they may get traffic with a huge cost and no benefit of link popularity.

I don't think you understand that advertising != link popularity. Link popularity is something you shouldn't be able to buy, and I commend Google for making this a reality.

Originally Posted by sri_gan

. So they can make the advertisers life miserable... huh?

Google's customers are the people who use its search engine. They want the highest quality search engine possible, and that means making it immune to spam and other attempts to hijack and manipulate it.

Does anyone else here need a Cliff Notes version? I got lost on this about 10 posts ago.

All right guys, I don't want to counter argue further, I thought it was constructive, some don't but hey it takes a long time to see the full circle right . I can wait.

advertisers buy adwords because it generates SALES only the short sighted "SEO" types think in terms of "link popularity"

Text-Link-Ads sell links NOT SEO

As said earlier;
You are mixing up buying links for advertising and sales, which is a perfectly valid reason and one that Google understands very well and accepts. And buying links for purely ranking reasons. One which Google understands very well and continues to battle against.

Now, if you want to sell links without risk to your site then take the steps necessary to protect your site.
Use a redirecting jump page and block the jump page with robots.txt
I could not in all honesty recommend the rel="nofollow" attribute method. Probably fine for Google, but the handling of it by the other SEs, is at best ambiguous.
And if anyone refuses to buy links that are redirected etc then more fool them.

IF on the other hand you are involved in buying links, then buy them for the right reasons. That is as an advert or a sales leader. Should any SE benefit come from them on a temporary basis then treat it as a bonus.

Nicely said there chrishirst

Yeah, well said, Hirst.

Good Discission on this particular topic but unfortunatly this is not clear to me that should recipocal linking is benifical or harmful .

In most cases, reciprocal links aren't going to help or hurt you. If you use too many of them it may be harmful. For every link you get through a trade, you'll have to give one up, which means some of your traffic going off to other sites instead of exploring yours.