Originally Posted by datasolutioninc

PR is important for site.

Did you bother READING the thread?

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Did you bother READING the thread?

That's a novel idea.

here here

i agree wiv stox

Originally Posted by linkbuilding2.0

Page Rank has been much used and probably more misused by webmasters . But here are my reasons why I think Page Rank is still important

1) PR is one among several criteria to rank well in search engines.

2) In the absence of any well known metric to judge the quality of the webpages .. page rank will continue to act as a important criteria.

3) For a given keyword similar kind of websites will rank differently .. the pages with high PR comes on top( I have seen this for products and services in my industry .. However I am not sure about other industries)

4) Page rank is not the ultimate aim of any webmaster .. building organic links and good traffic is ....If you are able to build the two successfully there is no reason why you wont get PR .

5) While I agree PR is not the be all and end all of a website .. It is something we all would love to have some day .. big or small

All 5 points are good. However, you must consider the fact that the owner of the domain will aim for higher rank which makes page rank still one of the main and most important features of web design.

Originally Posted by phpdotcom

you must consider the fact that the owner of the domain will aim for higher rank which makes page rank still one of the main and most important features of web design.

Care to elaborate since your statement doesn't really make sense? PR has nothing to do with web design nor is it the most important thing in regards to where a page ranks in search results.

Thank you for this interested observation, as I think (know) one of most important thing is also "Google Indexing Rank".

Originally Posted by Samker

Thank you for this interested observation, as I think (know) one of most important thing is also "Google Indexing Rank".

It is important to understand relationship between page rank ( PR ) and the actual rankings SERPS. A) PR relies on bulk of back links whereas SERPS relies on quality of back links B) PR of 7 doesnt mean you would be on top of search engines. C) PR is a stored/cached result and doest reflect current status of your website, whereas SERPS relies on current status.

thank you for the many wonderful stickies...i'm learning, slowly, but learning

I have to admit I hate all this talk about PR too. I gotta tell ya, the biggest way to get listed high on Google is fresh content. Everything else is a distant second (I do not wnt to diminish the effects of good SEO techniques) What most folks should do is write fresh content, and keep it fresh. Writing takes a lot of work and I believe this why most people are looking for a holy grail when it comes to Google. Write good titles, Content, Descriptions, and then more content. It's not as easy as it sounds - but the effort will pay off.

Matt Cutts once suggested that people should get a text browser from 1994, such as Lynx and view their websites with it - its a great way to look at content.

I generally agree with you that it's good to have fresh content, but it's not the secret to ranking well. New pages often rank well quickly only to slide back down the results after a time. If it was true that fresh content was the secret then you'd never see anything ranking that was more than a few months old.

I do agree though that it's good to have fresh content and you should be working on growing your site.

And by the way I'm a Bernie Williams fan.

Van you noticed the Bernie williams thing - thanks - I miss him.

I agree with you it is not only about content, I just get tired of people looking for a secret trick to Google. Thing is, if you write, and have interesting content then the skies the limit in posting articles and PR (Press Releases) and you are going to get natural back links from that effort. New sites generally do well at first, and I have read that Google does favor old domains, however content is King and fresh content is better.

Your point "if that fresh content was the secret then you'd never see anything ranking that was more than a few months old." Is almost a true statement when you consider the importance of blogs these days and their effect on the SERPs

I wish he was still playing too. Don't let my current location fool you. I grew up in NY and even lived in CT (Danbury) for a couple years. A friend and client of mine has a son-in-law who's friends with Bernie. I'm hoping one day to work the connection into tickets or perhaps a visit to the dugout.

Fair enough about fresh content. I just didn't want to leave the impression that all you had to do was create any kind of content and as long as it was new it would rank well.

C'ya opening day 33 days from now.

By the way let me know if you are there, I go about 30 times a year - I'll buy you a beer since you do a great job here by the looks of it.

Thanx

As much as I'd like to be there opening day, I'm living in Colorado at the moment. The commute is a little much for a game. If I do make it back this summer I'm sure I'll catch a game and I'll let you know.

PR is only for entertainment purposes. A gimmick for people to download Google toolbar

hmm......Thanks for the info

nice post. i ahve always wondered why lower pr sites are out ranked in the google serps but now i know why
cheers
dd

tnx for the info, im new to seo world..

I personally tend to give bigger importance towards Alexa rather than PageRank

seo and back links are so important.

too many people try for short term positions so with alexa you have to go for longer term keywords that stay and make you money month after month.

I have two keywords that sell a $9 report and it makes money month after month just on SEO. Its not alot of money but its the same month after month. Thats what you have to aim for.