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The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
12-21-2006, 06:11 AM
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The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Chris Hirst
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12-22-2006, 02:26 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Greg Beddor
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Thanks Chris.
Very useful information to know.
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12-22-2006, 03:27 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Thanks for the link Chris. So how long before one of us is still responding to a question about duplicate content penalties?
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12-22-2006, 05:22 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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probably not very long 
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12-22-2006, 09:25 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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I'm kind of surprised we haven't had to in this thread yet.
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01-07-2007, 03:31 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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omg the masiah had come! no penalty? are you sure? bacsue once, well i believe i got banned for having 2much duplicated content
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01-07-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Matt Cupan
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I have some of same exact text on three different pages within site
is that bad?
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01-09-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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well, yes, if you read the article - from what i understood they are slowly going to filter you out  i am not sure though, why do u have 3 same content pages?
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01-10-2007, 01:29 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Posts: 11,144
Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Roy did you read the article?
Matt from Google's perspective it wouldn't make sense for them to show all three of those pages in the results to a query. So let's say someone searches for something and your content is relevant to their search. Google will only show one of those three pages.
They will decide which one to show based on what they think is the most relevant. If you don't care which page is the one they display then there's nothing to worry about. If it's important to you that one of them is the one displayed in SERPs then you should tell Google not to index the other two either through a meta tag or through robots.txt. You can probably tell them through Webmaster Central as well.
The site itself isn't going to be penalized for three pages of duplicate content. The content will rank just as well as it would have if there was only one page of content. But only one page will rank, not all three.
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01-13-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Forrest Croce
Location: Seattle, WA
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Originally Posted by chrishirst
NOTE: There is NO duplicate content penalty
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This matches my experience. I set up a site to display my photography, http://LandscapePhoto.us, then started doing a lot of portraiture, and needed a new domain ( http://ForrestCroce.com ) to avoid confusing visitors. I bought a new one and "parked" it at the same IP so it returns the same site.
Every page on the site is duplicated, and looks like a mirror. But I come up under both domains, depending on the search and the links pointing at any particular page. My rankings fluctuate wildly, but "seattle night photos" puts me at the end of page one or the beginning of page two. But only one of my domains is shown in the results.
So this seems like a pretty accurate description of how things work, at least to me.
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01-13-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Steven Bradley
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Forrest you may want to set the two domains up so one is permanently redirected to the other one. I don't think it would matter which site was redirected to the other. It would be more your personal choice.
Say you redirected the landscape domain to the ForrestCroce domain. If someone typed the landscape domain they would get redirected to the ForrestCroce site and still see the same content.
The reason it might be beneficial is because search engines would see both sites as the same and the links pointing in to the site would all be going to the same site instead of being split between two domains as I think it is now. I think if you set things up with a permanent (301) redirect you'll find your overall rankings will improve.
It might take a couple of months for the search engines to sort out the redirect, but I think after that you'll see more traffic coming into the site via search.
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01-14-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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vangogh - do you realy think that they are going to show your pages, well i will sure to read the article one more time but think of this this way: we though that we get banned for having duplicated content - therefor no pages inddexed in google. so know it would make just perfect sense to say that your pages, with duplicated content will be filtered out, yet your site will not be banned. i will sure to read again, Roy.
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01-14-2007, 01:55 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Steven Bradley
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roy my take from this article as well as other things I've read is that if you have two pages on your site with the same content then Google will choose one to display in the results to a query. They won't show both pages since that adds nothing to their users.
It doesn't however mean your site gets banned or that one page ranks any lower than it would if there wasn't a duplicate content issue.
I think if every page on your site was considered duplicate content, especially if the content is from another domain then something more than filtering out pages might happen.
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01-14-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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google does not punish anybody for dublicate content . They will filter you for your dublicate content  You will not get good serp results
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01-18-2007, 10:36 PM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Heine
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I have read the discussion about duplicating with great interest, but I'm still a bit confused. I am new to this so please bear with me. I understand that Google will not punish you but simply only show one of several duplicate pages in the search results. This makes sense. Could anyone please advise if it's only so for duplicate pages within the same website or also for multiple websites with similar content???
I think I've read that if you submit multiple websites with similar looking content to the search engines (especially Google) they will punish you and not index any of your sites. Can anyone advice me about this???
Here are some details about my plans for the new sites (5 sites):
Design and navigation structure will be the same as the old site.
Total number of pages and pages identical with my old website will probably be one of the 2 below solutions:
1) Total pages = 6, Identical pages = 3
2) Total pages = 12, Identical pages = 9
COULD ANYBODY PLEASE ADVICE IF THIS PROPOSED STRUCTURE WILL GET ME INTO TROUBLE WITH GOOGLE???
BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT LOSE RANKING AND INDEXING OF MY OLD WEBSITE.
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01-19-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Steven Bradley
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I don't think you'll lose ranking or indexing of your old website. I do think you'll be better off writing unique pages for the new sites. There's really no good reason to have that many duplicate pages between two small sites.
In each of the cases you mention you're only creating 3 new pages for the new site. Why not just add those 3 new pages to the old site? Adding the pages to the old site will help the old site more than starting a new site will help the new site.
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01-20-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Forrest Croce
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vangogh
Forrest you may want to set the two domains up so one is permanently redirected to the other one. I don't think it would matter which site was redirected to the other. It would be more your personal choice.
Say you redirected the landscape domain to the ForrestCroce domain. If someone typed the landscape domain they would get redirected to the ForrestCroce site and still see the same content.
The reason it might be beneficial is because search engines would see both sites as the same and the links pointing in to the site would all be going to the same site instead of being split between two domains as I think it is now. I think if you set things up with a permanent (301) redirect you'll find your overall rankings will improve.
It might take a couple of months for the search engines to sort out the redirect, but I think after that you'll see more traffic coming into the site via search.
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Thanks so much for this excellent advice!! I'll have to look into my cpanel and figure out how to do that with the landscape domain.
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01-20-2007, 01:42 AM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Posts: 11,144
Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Glad to help and feel free to ask questions if you have any. Your host might let you park one domain so it points to the other. I think you still need to do something to ensure it's a 301. There are a variety of ways you can set it up I think.
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01-20-2007, 01:58 AM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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Name: Harris
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Thanks for the link chris. Google looks duplicate content in a very effective manner and treats it very seriously.
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01-24-2007, 08:48 AM
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Re: The OFFICIAL word from Google on duplicate content
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i dont see the advantage of having duplicate content on 'own site'
... unless its like article distributed to other sites and bring lots of backlinks.
i notice that on duplicated pages, if the page title varies, then its still will be crawl as well. 
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