I want to improve my site PR,
If there has any hign pr site on which I can put my link freely?
Thank you

for what reason ??

PR won't get you more visitors, useful links will do that.
PR won't get you higher ranking in Google, useful links will do that.

see the dozens of discussions on PR. we hardly need another one

I agree, useful liknks will get you more traffic and eventually a better PR if its really important thing to you. I have a PR5 site thats not much

better try some related free directories.
if your site follows their guidelines you can get listed in them for free.

jetbrains, you are correctly interested in elevating your PageRank. You are unlikely to find a site with a PageRank of 6 or more where you can "post your link freely." Your time is better spent creating a group of pages now on your website for the placement of future reciprocal links. Work with links on your own site to pass PageRank onto these new pages. In some weeks, perhaps months, you will then have pages on your website with PR that are simply awaiting for link exchange invitations. Good luck!

Originally Posted by chrishirst

for what reason ??

PR won't get you more visitors, useful links will do that.
PR won't get you higher ranking in Google, useful links will do that.

see the dozens of discussions on PR. we hardly need another one

Many people would see PR and useful links to be completely intertwined. PR comes from links, its rare to see a pr 1 site compete with a pr 5/6 sites in rankings for a search term, this is because of the links and not the PR itself. But PR is a measure of links, so having more PR means more links and thus better rankings. So PR will get you more visitors, i know its not a clearcut case of saying that a pr 5 site will always rank above a pr4, but to say useful links will get your more visitors and PR won't is kind of incorrect.

hi,
page rank is essential. to increase your page rank you should try to get some good back links from good page rank sites.

sources to get back links:

for better pr try to submit yore site in search engines


Search Engine Submission Pages:
http://www.google.com/addurl.html (for Google, Yahoo, and AOL)
http://www.altavista.com/addurl (for AltaVista)
http://www.alltheweb.com/add_url.php (for Lycos/Fast)
http://www.wisenut.com/submitsite.html (for WiseNut, LookSmart (assumed eventually) page taken down 24/6/2002)
http://submit.search.yahoo.com/free/request (Yahoo Search/Inktomi)
http://ask.ineedhits.com/ (AskJeeves, Teoma)

Directory Submission Pages:
http://dmoz.org/add.html (for DMOZ, Google, AOL, Others)
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/suggest/ (for Yahoo Directory)
http://listings.looksmart.com/?synd=none&chan=lshomeft (For MSN, LookSmart, Altavista)
http://www.zeal.com (Free way into LookSmart for non-commercial sites)
http://www.goguides.org
http://www.joeant.com/
http://vlib.org/ (mostly educational sites)
http://www.wannalearn.com/ (educational sites)
http://libraryspot.com (primarily reference sites)

Originally Posted by rudradatta

page rank is essential.

Essential for what? It's certainly not essential for ranking highly in search engines. It can be useful in some cases, but it's not the be all and end all.

Originally Posted by rudradatta

hi,
page rank is essential. to increase your page rank you should try to get some good back links from good page rank sites.

sources to get back links:

for better pr try to submit yore site in search engines


Search Engine Submission Pages:
http://www.google.com/addurl.html (for Google, Yahoo, and AOL)
http://www.altavista.com/addurl (for AltaVista)
http://www.alltheweb.com/add_url.php (for Lycos/Fast)
http://www.wisenut.com/submitsite.html (for WiseNut, LookSmart (assumed eventually) page taken down 24/6/2002)
http://submit.search.yahoo.com/free/request (Yahoo Search/Inktomi)
http://ask.ineedhits.com/ (AskJeeves, Teoma)

Directory Submission Pages:
http://dmoz.org/add.html (for DMOZ, Google, AOL, Others)
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/suggest/ (for Yahoo Directory)
http://listings.looksmart.com/?synd=none&chan=lshomeft (For MSN, LookSmart, Altavista)
http://www.zeal.com (Free way into LookSmart for non-commercial sites)
http://www.goguides.org
http://www.joeant.com/
http://vlib.org/ (mostly educational sites)
http://www.wannalearn.com/ (educational sites)
http://libraryspot.com (primarily reference sites)

Thank you very much.

jetbrains it's ok to submit your site to directories, but please don't submit your site to search engines. It won't help at all and may even hurt when your pages rank later.

Submitting your site to search engines will not hurt your site at all.

Have to disagree a little, but just a little. For the most part I agree with you and just think submitting is a pointless exercise and a waste of time, but there's been some indication that Google starts off all the pages it becomes aware of in two different places. Those they find on their own go in one place and those that are submitted go in another. They apparently treat sites in each place in a different way and those that started out life as a site they found tend to get better results to search querries later.

I think a lot of that is speculative, but I've seen it often enough from some people who's opinions I respect to make me think it has a good chance of being more than speculation.

At best though submitting to search engines is just a waste of time since it won't get your site indexed any faster.

You're right though that for the most part your site won't be hurt by the submission unless you consider the speculation above or the opportunity cost of having been able to better spend your time doing something more productive. I probably shouldn't have made it seem so dire in my last post, but still the advice to not submit to search engines still holds since there is no value in it.

Originally Posted by vangogh

jetbrains it's ok to submit your site to directories, but please don't submit your site to search engines. It won't help at all and may even hurt when your pages rank later.

That doesn't sound right to me vangogh. Will your site always be labeled as "submitted" and always rank lower than if found without submission? I doubt it. I thought of submission and links as being 2 feeds into the same place.

To think that you could saboutage somebody else's attempts to rank highly, simply by submitting their website to a seach engine....

To think that you could saboutage somebody else's attempts to rank highly, simply by submitting their website to a seach engine

If you think about it logically how could you?

you would have to be holding knowledge of your competitors plans on launching websites.

I don't go with the idea that there is a difference between submitted sites and "found" sites, simply because submitting does nothing at all.

I have one domain live that was submitted to Google, Yahoo and MSN on the same day almost 12 months ago. To date Googlebot has never been near the site, msnbot has never visited and Slurp has visited a handful of times. There are no links, and no references to the hostname exist beyond the whois information.
I occasionally visit the site with the Google toolbar, MSN toolbar and Yahoo toolbar active in my browser, which dispells another popular myth, for me at least.

I agree with others that the best way to improve ranking is through useful links. I tried this with my website and increased my google, yahoo and msn rankings substantially.

Submit my site to search engines will improve my site PR?

Submittting your site to search engines will do nothing to improve your PR. In fact if you read a few posts back Chris pretty much showed it won't even get your site indexed.

That stuff I mentioned about how submitting could have adverse effects was like I said just speculative. I have 0 proof to offer. It's just something I've read a few times.

Chris it might be tied to what you're seeing in some way. It's been a little while since I came across it, but it might have been that Google places sites submitted to them in different locations temporarily before going back to index them, but those sites that are submitted go somewhere that Google doesn't get back to as often.

It's just speculation so take it all with a grain of salt. Regardless submitting won't do anything to help so it is a pointless exercise.