i wanted to ask if page rank affects your listing? because i have a better pr than some slipknot sites that have a better listing than mine, and it pisses me off cuz a few of those sites dont even exist anymore yet they get a better listing and 2 are even under the directory....

also, why is it that my index has a pr of 4 and the rest of my pages have a pr of 0? could it have anything to do with the fact that i have a "http://www.slipknotcpd.commain.php?id=" URL for those pages?

Next, what exactly determins your listing rank?

Originally posted by Slipknot CPD
i wanted to ask if page rank affects your listing? because i have a better pr than some slipknot sites that have a better listing than mine, and it pisses me off cuz a few of those sites dont even exist anymore yet they get a better listing and 2 are even under the directory....

PageRank is factored into the algo, but anchor text of inbound links is much more important.
]http://www.internet-marketing-resear...ound_links.php

Put your keywords in the link text, and less pagerank will go further.

Originally posted by Slipknot CPD
also, why is it that my index has a pr of 4 and the rest of my pages have a pr of 0? could it have anything to do with the fact that i have a "http://www.slipknotcpd.commain.php?id=" URL for those pages?

Next, what exactly determins your listing rank?

On the internal page PR, either Google isn't indexing the pages, or it has indexed them and hasn't assigned PR. Or, they could have 0 PR due to no links.

The ranking algo considers many things:
Page titles - very important.
Page body copy - important.
H1 tag text - important.

But the most important thing is the anchor text of inbound link.

Cheers.

According to my understanding of http://pr.efactory.de/e-pagerank-implementation.shtml, (I could not find the author's name), there are two major factors.

1. Page specific factors, (including anchor text of inbound links)
2. PageRank

1. The page specific factors, such as, title, heading, body text, keywords on page, keyword placement on page, etc, and the anchor text of incoming links are factored together to arrive at an initial value of importance.

2. That initial value is then multiplied by the PageRank, which is determined by number of incoming/outgoing links and the internal link structure.

None of us know exactly what weight is put on the anchor text of incoming links.

One thing that we can be fairly sure of is that if any certain factor is susceptible to abuse, meta tags for example, Google won't put a lot of weight on it or, as with keywords on the page, they will have a method of detecting the repetition and penalizing for it.

Bompa

As the great John Scott already pointed out, the anchor text seems to matter more than the PageRank of the page. Just keep getting links with the right anchor text and you will rank higher.

Originally posted by Bompa

2. That initial value is then multiplied by the PageRank, which is determined by number of incoming/outgoing links and the internal link structure.

None of us know exactly what weight is put on the anchor text of incoming links.

Bompa

Just to clarify, your site's PR is not effected by the number of OUTgoing links unless you are referring to outgoing links pointing to other pages on the same domain (because you are sending slightly less PR weight to each subpage). However, the more subpages you have, the more PR you can push BACK to the index page, so I am NOT saying less pages is better.

The amount of outgoing links you have on your page does affect the amount of PR "passed to" each external link but I believe the amount lost to each link is rather small (but does add up if you are outlinking to 75 sites all from one page).

I think one should focus on not only quality (links from high PR sites) but ALSO quantity (for the link popularity and anchor text benefits).

Slipknot CPD : Hey Nice site... I like Slipknot

I think you should optimize your page
and why not removing you're gateway/entrance page... search engines want TEXT... so move your content to http://www.slipknotcpd.com/

i dont get rid of the index page because of counter issues, but do you think this will help improve my page listing?

From what i've heard google won't crawl though your internal pages if they are of the form page.php?id=whatever.

You can get around this by setting apache to run a script whenever a request is made to any particular directory and then use the script to parse the url in order to decide what content you need for that page. So your url can look like
www.domain/id/whatever instead of www.domain?id=whatever.
If this sounds like something you want to do and want more info let me know.

Try this on Google:
allinurl:php?id

Plenty of pages are indexed with the URL's including whatever.php?id=123

JohnScott et al,
Do you think that means that a link to whatever.php?id=123 doesn't help the page rank of whatever.php?

Hi

what I've heard is that Google will penalize for Links with too many parameters after the '?'

if there's only a few it's ok