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Old 05-05-2006, 10:11 AM Odd Google behavior
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For some reason when I search Google for "SearchBliss", the title of SearchBliss is just "SearchBliss"??? The actual title is "SearchBliss: Web Tools - Free Webmaster Services, SEO Tools..."
See: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=searchbliss

The real title appears if I search for "free web tools", "seo tools", etc. Why?
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:24 AM Re: Odd Google behavior
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I get the full title. Google is a bit erratic at the moment.
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:58 AM Re: Odd Google behavior
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Google does not always use your title. They sometimes create their own from your apge or use parts of your title.
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:47 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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I thought they always used the title and just varied the description.

Kline I'm seeing your full title too now. Maybe it was just a Google glitch. I've been seeing a lot of people mentioning weird things the last week with Google results.
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Old 05-05-2006, 07:13 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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Old 05-06-2006, 03:49 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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Yes, I see that Chris, but they are not using the DMOZ description, just the title. It used to be the opposite (DMOZ description, real title).
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Old 05-06-2006, 06:23 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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They will use all kinds of mixes of the title and text snippet
The general pattern is to make the snippet match the search phrase.

if you run a site:search you see it becomes both DMOZ title and description. Change the query to include a keyword and it becomes the DMOZ description for the snippet and the title from the page.

It's one compelling argument for not having a DMOZ listing
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Old 05-06-2006, 07:29 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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I didnt list in DMOZ. How do I unlist?
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Old 05-06-2006, 08:18 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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If you didn't list in DMOZ then there's nothing to unlist. What would you be unlisitng?
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Old 05-06-2006, 08:20 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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backthebulls.com. it's the only explination, my description is no where in my site at all!

Type 'btb games' in google. mine top result.
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Old 05-06-2006, 08:40 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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If you're not listed in the DMOZ then how can Google be pulling a description from the DMOZ? I'm not sure where they're getting it from, but I would think the only way they could be pulling it from the DMOZ is you are actually listed there and there's some information for them to get. They must be gettng it from somewhere else.

You could try adding a meta description to the page. They won't always use that, but they will sometimes.
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Old 05-06-2006, 08:42 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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Is is. I think previous site owner may have listed it besauce description matches their content.

I have submitted a update request update a few weeks back but nothing changed
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Old 05-06-2006, 08:49 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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Maybe they updated title a bit after it got indexed?
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Old 05-06-2006, 09:02 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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That makes sense mad_willsy. I hadn't realized the domain was in DMOZ at one point. I see the site now in the Google directory which would have come from the DMOZ at some point. How recently did you take over the site? Google doesn't seem to update their directory all that often, but the next time they do I would imagine the site won't be there any more since it's no longer DMOZ.

I wouldn't wait on the DMOZ to make the change. I think for now the best thing you can do is add your own description to the site with a meta description tag. At least that way you have a better chance of getting a description relating to your site.

My guess though is the old description of the previous site will get removed in time.
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Old 05-06-2006, 09:18 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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About 6 months ago now. It was my dads and he got bored. I asked if I could use it and he agreed as he was gonna park it anyway because hufc lottery are after the domain.
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:55 PM Re: Odd Google behavior
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Well I'm pretty sure Google has updated the directory in the last 6 months though I'm not really sure whether they do it all at once of just certain sections at a time.

With DMOZ all you can do is wait. You could always submit the site again with the new description. It could be awhile before they review your site, but it seemed like a small category so they might get to it sooner.

Definitely add your own meta description though. It will get picked up and used by Google for some searches.
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Old 05-07-2006, 04:21 AM Re: Odd Google behavior
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