DMOZ submission secret!!!
01-24-2006, 07:19 AM
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Posts: 684
Location: DudeWorldOrder.com
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There is no secret
Everyone wants to be listed in it!
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01-24-2006, 09:45 AM
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Posts: 21
Location: Poland
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and what is more - DMOZ doesn't seem very keen to list anyone 
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01-25-2006, 05:35 AM
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Posts: 8
Location: Universe
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Is DMOZ that importante? I just wonder. And who is behind it? A lot of people do not seem to like the editors overe there...
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01-25-2006, 12:56 PM
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Posts: 1,312
Name: John
Location: USA
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Google thinks it's important, but that may not last if changes aren't made. DMOZ seems to be "outdated". Most of the sites have descriptions several years old because they won't even make changes when submitted, let alone add new sites.
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01-25-2006, 01:46 PM
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Posts: 21
Location: Poland
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DMOZ seemed collapsed to me few years ago - they didn't have enough editors but still they were refusing many many offers from people that wanted to become editors even for small and unimportant categories
now when I look at DMOZ there isn't any sign of improvement or even update, so I just stopped to use (not mention wasting time for pointless sumbissions)
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01-27-2006, 10:23 PM
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Posts: 387
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most people become dmoz editor to get their site listed, then they fight off other people joining so their competitors cant get listed.
Whole thing is a nice idea but they should really charge like $10-$20 a submission so they can provide a better service
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01-28-2006, 12:18 AM
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Posts: 8,946
Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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While it's nice to have a DMOZ listing it's not going to make or break your site or your business. Just submit to them and forget about it. You either will get listed or you won't and it could take a long time to get listed.
You can try submitting to the locality categories. Start in the regional category and drill down till you get to your locality and then find an apprpriate category within that. As long as your business has a physical presence you can submit to a locality and it's still ok to submit to a more general category as well. It's one of the only ways to be listed more than once.
The localites are usually easier to get into since less people submit to them and I think the editors have less waiting to be reviewed. I've been able to get site listed in the localities in a matter of days sometimes.
It's not as visible as the more general categories, but it's still a DMOZ listing if you feel you have to have one.
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01-28-2006, 10:23 AM
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Posts: 1,312
Name: John
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Guerrilla
most people become dmoz editor to get their site listed, then they fight off other people joining so their competitors cant get listed.
Whole thing is a nice idea but they should really charge like $10-$20 a submission so they can provide a better service
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I couldn't imagine paying to be ignored.
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01-28-2006, 01:44 PM
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Posts: 21
Location: Poland
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Originally Posted by kline11
I couldn't imagine paying to be ignored.
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obvoiusly You haven't heard about Polish portal Wirtualna Polska http://www.wp.pl - if You want to submit your site you have to change it completely according ot their rules (which will ruin your chances to get good position on f.e. Google) then you can wait months to get listed for free or pay them some money and... wait months to get listed
my client payed them 3 times and nothing happened - his site still isn't listed and they even stopped to answer his e-mails
well, as I always say - Poland is beautiful country but only if you have abstract sense of humour 
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01-28-2006, 02:06 PM
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Posts: 222
Name: Sylwester
Location: Europe
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don't forget DMOZ is free, some services for free are poor, it is like national service, it's free - you wait, you pay - you GOT IT
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01-28-2006, 06:20 PM
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Posts: 387
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Originally Posted by kline11
I couldn't imagine paying to be ignored.
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I would expect that if it was a pay service then you would be less likely to be ignored as you would want a refund.
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01-28-2006, 07:46 PM
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Posts: 15,343
Location: Blackpool. UK
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01-31-2006, 12:20 AM
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Posts: 2,114
Name: Matt. (>',')>
Location: London, England.
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Originally Posted by Guerrilla
I would expect that if it was a pay service then you would be less likely to be ignored as you would want a refund.
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Charging for inclusion would defeat the point of Dmoz.
If you were paying for inclusion you would want to be assured that your link would be included, i can't see them sorting out refunds for all the people rejected.
So if everyone who paid was accepted it would no longer be "The worlds largest human edited directory", it would become a free for all link dump.
Google only value Dmoz because they have a strict accpetance policy.
If that acceptance policy was replaced by a "if you pay you get included" policy it would devalue it's importance to google..
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01-31-2006, 05:54 AM
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Posts: 15,343
Location: Blackpool. UK
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Charging for inclusion would defeat the point, as charging for review (as Yahoo) would. However neither are likely to happen simply because DMOZ exists purely for itself not as a listing service for webmasters. This is why submissions are ignored, and as 99.9% of the submissions are simply garbage which would be rejected by any sane person why should they be be bothered.
Google has never valued the DMOZ data highly, it was picked up for the RDF dump as a quick means to seed their database, and the fact that it already had the crap weeded out was an extra benefit. The myth of Google placing huge value on a DMOZ listing is another misguided error over cause and effect. DMOZ has around 4000 other "directories" pulling the RDF, this is what created the impression of high value at Google back when links were just about everything needed to rank highly.
Recently the vast majority of these clones have been ignored for any linkpop/PR value so the perceived (or real) value of DMOZ is diminishing.
The odd thing is no-one ever mentions DMOZ and Yahoo, and Yahoo is far more sensitive to links in volume than Google (Google is the anchor text not just the quantity of links) ever was or is.
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02-05-2006, 01:09 AM
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Re: DMOZ submission secret!!!
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Posts: 38
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The only secret is submit a good site and leave the editors alone.
It took about six months for my site to get listed and I only get about 1-4 hit per day from them. Not a lot considering the hype i've heard about being listed but I look at it this way. I got a free link and 1-4 visitors per day that I wouldn't have gotten if I didn't submit.
Just submit and forget about it and one day in the distant future it will be added.
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02-05-2006, 02:57 AM
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Re: DMOZ submission secret!!!
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I edit on Dmoz and I am very active in my categories. Usually only 2-3 days go by between me checking in, and I usually review sites within a week of submission. I'll say this: if you read the submission guidelines and write a good description (as well as having a site that has enough unique content to belong in the category) I'd be a lot more likely to approve a listing. When webmasters fail to read the submission guidelines, it is a PITA because if the site is worthy of a listing, we then have to create a new description/title, change the URL submitted, etc.
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02-08-2006, 09:19 PM
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Re: DMOZ submission secret!!!
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Posts: 407
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Become an editor and you can then get in.
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Originally Posted by CAL
There is no secret
Everyone wants to be listed in it!
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I don't know why Google thinks it is show important as it is really just a web directory where about half of its websites listed are just homepages which are not designed all that good at all.
Dmoz is old and is not far from death unless they change things and make it become better again.
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02-09-2006, 06:35 PM
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Re: DMOZ submission secret!!!
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The secret to getting your sites listed on Dmoz is to become an editor, IMO...
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02-09-2006, 06:45 PM
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Re: DMOZ submission secret!!!
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I have heard that trying to become an editor is now probably harder than getting your site listed.
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Originally Posted by Lasso
The secret to getting your sites listed on Dmoz is to become an editor, IMO...
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