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Old 08-03-2005, 07:17 AM 1 & 1 hostings and Google ?
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Hi.

I have got around 12000 yahoo links for my site that I am hosting from 1 & 1.co.uk


Its been few months now and I have no links on Google, MSN or Ask.


It came to a point that I thought it might be the Hosting company's fault ?????


now this really does sound stupid.



But, Please help.


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Old 08-03-2005, 09:43 AM
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Perhaps I didn't understand you correctly. Did you mean that your links simply vanished from Google listings?
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:46 AM
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oh... nonono.

i doubt i got banned.


it wasnt there from the beginning. although it is listed. just One index page.

one the other hand Yahoo's got most of pages indexed
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:32 AM
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Your hosting provider has nothing to do with search engine spiders.

I'm moving this thread to the google forum where you might get a better response.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:59 PM
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Actually your provider could have quite a lot to do with search engines, there have been many instances of "helpful" hosts deploying robots.txt to block crawlers so they "save" clients bandwidth. Also the IP you are hosted can have an impact on your rankings, 1&1 for example have most of their servers on German IPs so if you want results in the regional UK engines you could well be SOL.

Depending on the age of your site you may be in the aging delay (few threads around on the subject)

Yahoo currently is much quicker at indexing and listing than the other majors and ASK, Well, they'll get around to your site sometime, maybe. Are you seeing visits from the crawlers in your logs?

A URI would be useful so some investigation could be done and maybe give you a better qualified answer.
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Old 08-04-2005, 05:44 AM
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i am having too many visits from Yahoo. occasionally from google. just one or two visits a week.. id say

surely the hosting company wont let just yahoo bots, but not google ???
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:31 AM
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Old 08-04-2005, 01:50 PM
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Probably not, simply commenting on Anacrusis saying that hosting as nothing to do with spiders,

With the information given it's simply guessing I'm afraid.
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:08 AM
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The only reason i can see for google discriminating against your site because of hosting is if another site with similar content is hosted on the same ip. Some people now believe that google will give sites less ranking if the class C IP is the same (as in aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd as an ip address) as a high ranking site in that category. Yahoo and msn do not appear to have this problem as i have many sites hosted in the same hosting space with similar content showing up on the first page for the same keyword in these search engines but not google. I'm not sure how much weight i give this arguement as i do have some keywords where i show 2 sites on the first page of google for a keyword but there is absolutely no duplicate content between those sites.
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Old 08-05-2005, 06:43 AM
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is this true ???

I have 10 websites hosting on 1&1.co.uk


But really it would only affect the ranking, wouldnt it ? NOT HOW WELL IT GETS INDEXED....

my problem is its not even indexed at all.. whereas for yahoo, each site has about 7000 pages indexed.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:39 AM
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No it's not true, just another of the stupid ideas bandied about by the elements of the community who are trying to fool the search engine that their several hundred interlinked doorway domains are actually legitimate sites and deserve top billing.
Separate class C IPs, different registration details, it's just far too much work for a short term high gain then have to start again when the house of cards they have built come tumbling down.

I'll just carry on not caring about the search engines and do just what I want in terms of design and optimising rather than being worried about putting a foot wrong and "upsetting" a piece of software!!!

Are any of your 10 sites duplicates? are you trying to fool the SEs? are they all crosslinked?
If you answered "Yes" to any of these questions then you are storing up problems for the future, and should fix it now before it all goes TU.
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:17 AM
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no...its not a duplicate. however i did cross link them. maybe that could be the problem...hmmmmmmm


i took your advice and got rid of the links in my header.


lets see what happens now..


BTW, what do you mean by TU ?.


thanks for your help
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:28 AM
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Don't worry about your crosslink's unless the content is the same or very similar. I have 3 servers with 26 websites, all crossed link, all with 1,000s of Google listings. Occasionally I do put up a domain that Google has no interest in. it is very strange. They will crawl it on a regular basis but never index it.
Remember that most of the post on this website are based on antidotal evidence which is faulty by it's very nature.
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:45 AM
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can you suggest me a script/software for looking at spider activities and how much bandwidth they eat.

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