PR Release or Article site?

**nkthen** · 05-26-2005, 04:53 AM

As many of us have known, submitting to PR site and Article site is one way to getting backlinks.

However, here's something that I've observed:
- When I submit to PR site (eg. PRWeb.com), I get a number of backlinks in Google that are PR2, PR3 and even PR4. However, they are gone from their actual page in less than a week.

- When I submit to Articles site (eg. GoArticles.com), I also get a number of backlinks in Google that are mostly PR0 and PR1. However, they are all 'permenant' in the various sites.

Which one will be better? Do you guys perform more article submissions than PR?

**chrishirst** · 05-26-2005, 07:06 AM

permanent links are better regardless of PR

**kline11** · 05-26-2005, 01:58 PM

I agree with Chris. permanent links are better regardless of PR. I guess doing both wouldn't hurt if you have the time.

**Padawan** · 05-26-2005, 08:50 PM

I agree with the other two guys. Of course a low PR article site may well be a high PR one in the future.....

**shabbirbhimani** · 05-27-2005, 03:05 AM

From PR point of view "Permanent links" but I would suggest go for traffic point of view than just PR.

**Consider-This** · 05-27-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nkthen

As many of us have known, submitting to PR site and Article site is one way to getting backlinks.

However, here's something that I've observed:
- When I submit to PR site (eg. PRWeb.com), I get a number of backlinks in Google that are PR2, PR3 and even PR4. However, they are gone from their actual page in less than a week.

- When I submit to Articles site (eg. GoArticles.com), I also get a number of backlinks in Google that are mostly PR0 and PR1. However, they are all 'permenant' in the various sites.

Is "PR" page rank?
what's the deal on page rank?
does it translate into x number of visitors?
or is it prestige???

If you get the week of PR2, PR3... then during that week about how many extra hits are you getting as a result?

**shabbirbhimani** · 05-28-2005, 02:00 AM

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Is "PR" page rank?

yes

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what's the deal on page rank?

google's ploy to fool the newbie webmasters

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does it translate into x number of visitors?

No

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or is it prestige???

Somwhat

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If you get the week of PR2, PR3... then during that week about how many extra hits are you getting as a result?

Nothing extra.

**Consider-This** · 05-28-2005, 02:38 AM

Google's ploy, you say...
I can buy that.

I have another question: if, when I check my PR on one of those little check your page rank things, I get a total of 81... and my stats seldom say someone came from Google...

Then why is a "high" number better than like a 1????

**shabbirbhimani** · 05-28-2005, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Consider-This

I have another question: if, when I check my PR on one of those little check your page rank things, I get a total of 81... and my stats seldom say someone came from Google...

81. it should be betwen 0-10.

**Consider-This** · 05-28-2005, 02:55 AM

Right, it added them all together... I think Yahoo was like 49 or something...
another was was 29, and then lots of them I wasn't on.

Oh, but you know what, when I put my specific page, the fingernailsi one, into the box to check its PR, Google ranks it at 3. But I only get a person from Google every blue moon... so what does that mean????

**shabbirbhimani** · 05-28-2005, 02:58 AM

There is not direct relationship between PR and SERP's. but there is definitely some indirect relationship. If you have PR less than 4 then you dont expect some very good referrer from Google for very competitive terms. PR here means quality links.

**chrishirst** · 05-28-2005, 04:33 AM

Ah! Karen We are talking at cross purposes here

You are talking about page ranking which is the position in the SERPs Don't mix up the two. PageRank is a google only "feature" and the publicly displayed value is pretty meaningless for rankings, the actual figure, which only Google knows may or may not be an important part of the ranking algo.

The problems with your site looks to be duplicate content. Your external links point to the page in your signature, your internal links point to
http://www.health-boundaries-bite.com/new_folder/Fingernails.html

which is an exact duplicate There is also enough content on the page to split into 2 or 3 which give more chance to optimise better.

**Padawan** · 05-28-2005, 04:44 AM

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Right, it added them all together... I think Yahoo was like 49 or something...
another was was 29, and then lots of them I wasn't on.

Adding to what Chris said, I think Karen may be getting confused here with link popularity. Is 81 the number of backlinks you believe your site to be showing?

**Consider-This** · 05-28-2005, 04:58 AM

Oh bother!!!! I just went to get the link that I think I got off Padawan's web site:
http://www.whatsmylinkpop.com/linkpop.php

and I lost the reply I'd written explaining to Chris that my site is that way because of a glitch in SiteBuilder early on where any change I made on any page caused all my pages to become unformatted... so the techs had me do several different things, and one was the new_folder thing ... I thought "new folder" was something highly technical like machine language or something. So I have that, and my navigation bars are in there, so I can't get rid of it without weirding out my whole site.

I explained this on the DMOZ forum, and they said it wouldn't matter to them in terms of adding my site to the directory.

**chrishirst** · 05-28-2005, 07:11 AM

nope it wouldnt matter to DMOZ. But search engine don't want duplicate content and while they do filter it out mostly. having confusing issues as having external links pointing one place and internal links pointing to identical content on a different URL is asking for trouble and may well mean a penalty could be applied.

I would suggest that a complete redesign is in order.

**Consider-This** · 05-28-2005, 11:59 AM

I guess I feel strongly like screaming at you.
Did you not hear that I have brain damage?????

It is hard to do sites, but when your mind doesn't hold things it is vastly harder .

I just want to call you names for failing to understand that crucial part of what my site relies on... my site is by someone who when she started it could not remember anything that was't in front of her eyes. Yes, no memory. I have do huge amounts of exercise to improve that, and it is better today.

I guess you are just indifferent to what I've been saying.

I have my site PRECISELY because what happened to me because of low B12 was so shocking.

**nkthen** · 05-28-2005, 02:05 PM

I'm waiting for you to scream... Call us names please...

**chrishirst** · 05-28-2005, 02:06 PM

Well, Yes and if you want to use it as an excuse or expect to be treated as a special case that's your perogative, However I know that from having a few friends, relatives and colleagues who have various disabilities, that if I treated them as a special case I would soon be slapped down and called patronising. One is recovering from a stroke 12 months ago and has a memory span of a few hours for some things, but is currently learning HTML and CSS.

The information is given freely for you to do with as you wish, you can ignore it or use it at your own pace. It is simply pointing out the things that are wrong and do need attention.