Originally Posted by seocd

They may be a page rank of 6 but if it is in no way related to your content then google is not going to consider the backlinks that important for your page.

How would a computer program know if it's related? Let's say both use the phrase computer programming a lot, you'd think Google could match that and say "those are related", right? Now say one of them is about Sun Java and the other one about Lisp and AI. Not related at all.

I don't think Google can tell whether 2 documents are related or not, well enough to penalize them. And even if I'm wrong on that, I don't think Chris Hirst is wrong - that they don't care whether they're able to or not.

How would a computer program know if it's related? Let's say both use the phrase computer programming a lot, you'd think Google could match that and say "those are related", right? Now say one of them is about Sun Java and the other one about Lisp and AI. Not related at all.

I don't think Google can tell whether 2 documents are related or not, well enough to penalize them. And even if I'm wrong on that, I don't think Chris Hirst is wrong - that they don't care whether they're able to or not.

I second that.

Thanks for your posts everyone!

Google knows with their tech, you will have to wait and see with PR update

1277 backlinks....great !!!

Originally Posted by farrhad16

Will these number of backlinks help increase my PR. Are they good enough???

Originally Posted by farrhad16

Current PR is 1

Looks like you answered your own question.

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

How would a computer program know if it's related? Let's say both use the phrase computer programming a lot, you'd think Google could match that and say "those are related", right? Now say one of them is about Sun Java and the other one about Lisp and AI. Not related at all.

I don't think Google can tell whether 2 documents are related or not, well enough to penalize them. And even if I'm wrong on that, I don't think Chris Hirst is wrong - that they don't care whether they're able to or not.

One thing that is important in creating good search results is meta data and synonyms. Take a look at the documentation for Lucene.
So, if your apply a "computer.programming.language" synonym to Lisp, Java, Ada, Perl... you not only establish that they are related, you can get results across them.

Haven't you ever done a search on google and found lots of pages that didn't even contain the term you searched for? I get that daily.

The capability is definitely there, I'd be surprised if they didn't do it. I'm working on a music related search engine, and believe me, I apply a lot of synonym data to improve the results.

Originally Posted by farrhad16

Will these number of backlinks help increase my PR. Are they good enough???

Here's what I think is wrong with the site http://www.aviationearth.com/. It appears to be duplicate content from wikipedia and encyclopedia.com. Now I am not saying who copied who here, or arguing that a link is a link, or that Google may or may not employ human screeners that play into the algo of related content links.

But here's my thought - the site content here seems to have been scraped and may not ever show up in Google because of a duplicate content issue (i.e. wiki's page will take preference over your page)

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...e-content.html

Duplicate content doesn't cause your site to be penalized. If duplicate pages are detected, one version will be returned in the search results to ensure variety for searchers.

Scraped Content: This is when content from another website is repackaged in such a way that it appears new and unique, but really is just a mish-mash of content originally published on other sites. This presents a major problem for search engines as blogging continues to become widespread and popular posts are widely syndicated across multiple blogs.

Now consider the following:

http://aviationearth.com/Theory/deltawing.html equals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_wing

http://aviationearth.com/Theory/AR.html equals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling

http://aviationearth.com/Theory/Aerodynamics.html equals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamics

and so on and so forth - I bet (whether scraping is true or not) this site is being held back (as supplemental) for dupe content

I say, yes, they can help.
But only google knows about it for sure. PR is calculated by considering on-page and off-page seo factors. Although link building is the most important factor among all these.
Do you know the number of outbound links from the page with PR6? So you can enjoy some prediction about your pr, but to be sure, you need a continous process of promotion for your link.

Originally Posted by yankees51

Now I am not saying who copied who here,

Given the odd occurrences of "[citation needed]" it's not awfully difficult to work out.

Even though the copy is under the GNU copyright the Verbatim copying reuse rules apply.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Given the odd occurrences of "[citation needed]" it's not awfully difficult to work out.

Even though the copy is under the GNU copyright the Verbatim copying reuse rules apply.

I agree Chris, it's not awfully difficult to work out, however I don't really care in this case.

My point is that although there is no SE penalty for duplicate content - I believe that this site will never show up naturally because the wiki page will beat it everytime.

Even if I type the following information (cut,copy,paste) from text on this page on his site http://aviationearth.com/Theory/Aerodynamics.html I get the following in Google http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...em&btnG=Search - you can see his site may not of expressly encountered a penalty - but it is not showing up at all because of the following duplicate content statement:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...e-content.html

Duplicate content doesn't cause your site to be penalized. If duplicate pages are detected, one version will be returned in the search results to ensure variety for searchers.

I understand that there is no penalty for duplicate content but if duplicate pages do not show up - then I would consider this a negative.

The owner of this website is looking for advertisers and touting 7800 pages viewed in the last 30 days - I believe that most of those pages can be attributed people reviewing his site from the different SEO forums out there and the amount of posts he has made asking for input.

I feel used and dirty

Originally Posted by farrhad16

Hi,

I have an aviation website and am looking out for advertisers.

I rank well in Google. (can send you a screen shot of google webmaster tools)

I have bought Yahoo Search Submit Basic for my website. This will benefit you too.

7800 page views in last 30 days. (screen shot available)

Most pages have a PR too. (Source: Google Webamster Tools)

Tons of high PR backlinks too.

I have newsletter subscribers too.

Website: http://www.aviationearth.com

Any other details needed ?

Thanks in advance.

would you mind telling how you get over 1000+ backlinks?

Originally Posted by farrhad16

Hi,

I have 1277 backlinks to my website.(source is google webmaster tools)

1175 out of them to my home page.

Out of the above links I have the following to my home page:

1 PR 6 backlink
2 PR 5 backlink
5 PR 4 backlinks
16 PR 3 backlinks
10 PR 2 backlinks
5 PR 1 backlinks

Will these number of backlinks help increase my PR. Are they good enough???

Current PR is 1


Website: http://www.aviationearth.com

That would help your site if those links are dofollow. But don't expect too much if you only got that number of links with PR. Better to gather more backlinks.

That would help your site if those links are dofollow. But don't expect too much if you only got that number of links with PR. Better to gather more backlinks.

"Dofollow" is a made up word... a bit like "flufflebunny"

Originally Posted by farrhad16

Hi,

I have 1277 backlinks to my website.(source is google webmaster tools)

Out of the above links I have the following to my home page:

1 PR 6 backlink
2 PR 5 backlink
5 PR 4 backlinks
16 PR 3 backlinks
10 PR 2 backlinks
5 PR 1 backlinks

Will these number of backlinks help increase my PR. Are they good enough???

Darren, you are missing the point they are not all "dofollow" links some of them are "noyield" links and "yesgivewaytooncommingtraffic" links. I also noticed there were no "dokeepoffthegrass" links or "norunninginthehallway" links. But there is an apparent abundance of "docopyfromwiki" links.

Careful... Your gonna start a whole new set of "Buzzwords"

Google webmaster tool shows all ln bound links to your sites including links with no follow attributes. These no follow links will not pass any link juice. But as u have got high PR links for ur sites, that would relaly help u to boost your PR.