By the way, I was talking this over with vangogh on MSN Messenger and I came up with the fastest way to get a PR3 page. The answer is really simple:

Get a PR1 link, and then get a PR2 link.

Let's prove this using equation solving techniques.

1 + 2 = 3 . Everyone knows that, right?

Now, for those of us who remember our equation solving techniques from school, we can do something to the left side of the equation, as long as we do it to the right side of the equation.

So...

PR * (1 + 2) = PR * 3

Or, to expand it out....

PR1 + PR2 = PR3.

So there you have it. The fastest way to get a PR3.

Of course you could also get 1/2 of a PR6 or 1/3 of a PR9 and it would also work out to be PR3.

See everything you ever needed to know about seo you had learned by the time you finished 3rd grade. And there's that number 3 again.

Yeah, but my way involves addition, which would be something we all learned in the first grade. So my way's still faster because it requires less edumacachin.

Originally Posted by yellow1912

Saying PR is not important is just like saying your GPA is not important. It's true, but too often when you apply for a job most people do care about your GPA *____*.

I've never been asked about my grades in any job interview in my life.

Originally Posted by yellow1912

A very good example in my case: I have a new website that I want to promote, and link exchange is just 1 of many ways to do it. However, the site currently has PR 0, that makes it harder for me to persuade people to link me.

You have a point; it's harder to get links that don't help you if your toolbar PR value is low. On the other hand, you don't need links that don't help you if you have plenty of links that do.

Black Hat would be the fastest way but I wouldn't recommend it
Hard work, determination and a little wit are your best bets at being a safe pr 3 in 1 month!

and how would you get an imaginary PR3 in 1 month ????

The useless toolbar display isn't updated that often !!

Originally Posted by theseokit

Hard work, determination and a little wit are your best bets at being a safe pr 3 in 1 month!

Originally Posted by chrishirst

and how would you get an imaginary PR3 in 1 month ????
The useless toolbar display isn't updated that often !!

That is why I said,

Originally Posted by Kirtan

The FASTEST way to get PR3 is buying a PR3 site.

I more or less meant a website with the power of a PR3 chrischrist, unless you catch the update at the right time. (Which Is Possible...) But I stand corrected, you can have the power of a PR3 and rank in a PR3 ranking power way within one month with little work

Sometimes I just despair.

you can have the power of a PR3 and rank in a PR3 ranking power way within one month with little work

Please what are you talking about.

PR has little to do with ranking. It never really did have anything to do with ranking, apart from being used as a tie-break for some queries.

Links, and the anchor text of those links, are/were the main ranking factor but people in their haste to attribute some cause to the effect decided that it must be the amount of green bar showing as it was the only tangible thing they could see. And that was the 0 - 8 PR scale for sites that had a listing in the Google (DMOZ powered) directory. Back then they could only see the magic value for the domain root. So two myths get born.

1/ That PR is a valuable thing to have
2/ That having a DMOZ entry is vital.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Sometimes I just despair.
Please what are you talking about.

I and others can relate -- can't you just permanently BAN sweet little "what's his name"?

Originally Posted by chrishirst

PR has little to do with ranking. It never really did have anything to do with ranking, apart from being used as a tie-break for some queries.

Megapixels have always had a pretty back-seat role in image quality, but apparently mass consumers don't have the patience to understand how a system works. I'm sure I'd have another example in hi-fi stereo systems if I knew anything about them. Horsepower really doesn't have much to do with how a car drives - especially for people who commute at 20 mph on the parking lots we call freeways. I prefer espresso, even though it has less caffeine than drip coffee.

I guess people must be really easily distracted. Google has a PR of 10. But when you search for any particular term, they don't come up. A lot of much lower ranked pages that actually have that term on them, and in their links turn up, but the highest PR page of them all is nowhere to be found.

But "PageRank" lets a person who doesn't know the first thing about search engines explain why Google is better than Lycos.

Yup, you are all right there, PR is NOT important.
What ForrestCroce says goes back to my example, however. We, all know that PR is not important, but they, the customers/clients may not know that.
Here is something I want to check: if a REGULAR user/customer goes to my site, and he sees that my site has PR of 6 for example, does that make any difference with having no PR at all?
Here is what I did: I asked some of my friends, who are just regular users (they know how to browse a site, buy stuffs, watch movies, download, ... that's it). They THINK page rank is the RANK of a page, and the higher the better . Of course, the content, the service, ... are far more important. But to regular users who has Gtoolbar installed, PR does carry some weight.
Then again, I made this experiment with around 10 friends only.

Originally Posted by ForrestCroce

Megapixels have always had a pretty back-seat role in image quality, but apparently mass consumers don't have the patience to understand how a system works. I'm sure I'd have another example in hi-fi stereo systems if I knew anything about them.

Speaker/amp wattage. To be more precise, "peak" speaker/amp wattage. This is the "if you have an amplifier that can produce a clean sound at this wattage and your speakers can handle this wattage cleanly, you use the best cords possible with no kinks in them or twists, you have an enclosed area, and you catch lightning in a bottle, this is the wattage you'll achieve."

There is an alternate wattage number known as RMS (Root Mean Square) wattage, which is the amount of continuous power a speaker (or amp) should be able to achieve in roughly the same types of conditions as peak wattage listed above, although RMS tends to be more accurate because it doesn't measure peak, but continuous power.

Because there is no official UL or CSA (Canadian Standards Association) standard for the testing of speaker equipment and subsequent ratings measure, these ratings tend to be meaningless in most cases. If anyone attempts to put their equipment up to the peak wattage (or even the RMS depending on how it's measured), well...that's when speakers get that really funky burnt smell and farting noise happen and when outputs and circuits blow on amplifiers (more importantly than that, it's when people start to go deaf.)

Quick Speaker Trick (but one to be extremely careful with...probably should get the store you bought it from to do this): if your speaker doesn't work or you hear the farting noise (and you're going to replace it anyway), cut the cone out of it with an exacto knife (works best on the poly-coated paper cones, but the true rubber ones can be used for this too...just takes longer). Run it along the outside of the cone (where the metal bracket used to mount the speaker to its box/casing/whatever it was mounted to) to the point where you can lift the cone piece and voice coil out from inside of it.

The key to it is that you want the voice coil itself (the little copper piece inside of the magnet). This piece is what will tell you how your speaker got messed up. If the speaker isn't blown, the voice coil piece will be shiny copper (like a new penny). If it's blown, it will be a burnt dark copper (like if you took a penny and baked it in an oven at about 500 degrees for half an hour...don't try that, either. That's just a dumb thing to do.)

Back when I used to manage an electronics store in the mid-90s (so some of the mad knowledge I dropped on you l'il cubs might not be the truest from this brutha), we had orders from one of our suppliers to do this any time a speaker was blown to determine if it was eligible for warranty coverage or not. I must have cut 50 different woofers doing that and there was only one of them that was actually defective. The rest were just abused. Half the time, the voice coil would be burnt to the point where it was black...as in inside of a chimney that hasn't ever been cleaned black. You could actually smell the copper...that's a smell that I don't think I'll ever forget.

Anyway, the tie-in to PageRank is that the metrics used to measure speakers are the same as metrics such as PageRank and Alexa that are used to measure websites in that they're not an effective indicator of the quality of the website or how successful it is.

yellow1912 I think you're experiment is flawed though I do understand what you were trying to do. I think 10 friends is just too small a sample and not varied enough to give meaningful results.

This is just speculation on my part, but I would guess the vast majority of people browsing the web have never heard of PageRank or know how to find it if they did. Even with the Google Toolbar installed I believe you still need to turn on the advanced settings before the PR will show up. How many Windows computers do you pass by that still have the default background or use the default screen savers. The majority just accept what's been given to them and don't try to tweak things.