You see, I'm a poor webmaster and I've had almost 7 sites. And, I worked my life for them. But, I only used to get 25 visitors to my sites in one month. I did all the SEO I can and knew. I studies SEO tutorials....did tests....and most of all, my site were free sites. I gave up 6 of them because all I earned in 4 months is $105. Now all I have is my webmasteric blog I have 0 pagerank. I'm not in google. What should I do ? Where did I go wrong ? Should I stop this for good ? I dont want profit. I just want enough money to pay for internet bill. I think it gives no other choice than blackhat. I think there's no use coming to Webmaster-Talk. face it, money wins......SEO loses. Advertise like crazy and u win even if u have a site fulla spam. Why is the world so cruel ? Shud I ?

EDIT :- Sorry for the duplicate message. I appologise to the moderators. I would have deleted this if I could.

Content content content. SEO means nothing if you can't give people something they want. Think of something people would want, then put it on the internet for them.

Are you sure you've done all the seo you could? I'm seeing all of 2 backlinks for the blog (using Yahoo for the search). That kind of says to me you haven't done much if any seo.

You might have worked on getting backlinks, but remember it takes some time for the search engines to find them.

I won't tell you not to go black hat. Unlike a lot of others I don't think there's anything wrong with blackhat seo in general. Some things seem to me to go too far, but it's just a different approach.

White Hats generally try to stay within the guidelines set out by the search engines themselves and practice things more in a way that's similar to tradition offline marketing. It generally takes more time for them to succeed, but assuming they do their efforts usually continue to work long term.

By the way I removed the other thread since this is the one that got the response.

Black Hats will work the other side looking for holes int he algorithm they can take advantage of. Those that know how (and you really do need to know quite a bit to succed in the dark side) can get quicker results, but often those holes are closed by the search engines and the quick gains disappear. Then the game starts again.

see my <cough>site review</cough> in http://www.webmaster-talk.com/google...-dried-up.html

Well, I know a lotta hacking. So ? I dont wanna get banned by google. I'm gonna give their TOS a read and go by the good way. Well, I'm an ethical hacker. So, I'm not supposed to be doing blackhat stuff. Well, I think I think I'll be ditching this blog site and start a new one with a fresh new look and new content. What do u think ? Shud I make the site with PHP Nuke, Joomla, Wordpress or custom one ?? Pls gimme some recommendations bcuz I'm kinda new to this whole deal. I'm never gonna GIVE UP !!!!! Thank you guys for making me feel better. Now I know my mistakes and I'll try again. With tips & support frm webmaster-talk I will never gonna lose !!

I found this nice article. I think this is something that would be helpful for all new and old webmasters.
101 Ways to Build Link Popularity in 2006

Hey, hang in there for a while. Keep adding interesting content and getting links. I'm sure things will improve in the months and years ahead.

astro you seem to be asking some of the same questions you asked when you first arrived here. I think the main thing you might need to work on is patience. Yes there are some sites that become successful pretty fast, but most really do take some time before they start seeing a return. Even some of the sites that seem like overnight successes have often been online for a few years before anyone ever heard of them.

Don't worry so much about which content management system or blog you use to build your site. Any can be used to create a successful site and any can be used to create a failure. Those programs aren't going to be what makes or breaks your site.

Start by building a good site with lots of good content. If you really want to be successful you're going to need a lot of good content and you're going to need to be patient. You have a site now and it looks like it's a good start. It doesn't seem to me you've done nearly the seo you think you have.

You haven't done much as far as acquiring backlinks and that's what you're going to need most if you want traffic. Building backlinks also isn't quick or easy. It's also not about getting as many links as you can as fast as you can. It's about finding the really good links out there. Those are going to take time to find and time to do something to get those sites to link to you.

Don't give up though. While I think there's a lot you still need to do I also think you've come a long way since your first few posts here. It can be frustrating at times to not get the return we hope for, but you have to just keep working at it. Try some new things and see if they work better.

I agree with everything Chris said in that other thread. I also notice your site takes a very long time to load. I would think if you just showed the links to the posts with a breif paragraph on the home page it will significantly help the download issue.

You might also want to experiment with the look of your ads as well as where you place the ads. Try some across the top, try some embedded within your content. Try different sizes for your ads. Try using colors that blend the ads really well into yur site and also try some that make them stand out. Test and measure everything and see which works best. Use more of the ads that work and get rid of the ones that don't.

Thank you, Vangogh... for your valuable advice. Well, I think I did a mistake expecting overnight changes. Well anyway, I donno how to test ADs. I mean I have channels. But I donno how to handle them. U see, I've created almost 11 channels for nothing. I mean, I created them for fun. Is there any way I can delete them off for a clean start in this testing ? Well, about the page loading time. U see, I have no choice because Blogger doesnt have the facility to make a frontpage with 1 paragraph. Thats why I asked u for some advice on which CMS to use. I now regret having starting a blogger site because it isnt that efficient. I need a much powerful solution. I'm planning of evolving to a community site so that I can get user support for the content contribution. Community sites are easy keep updated. Everyone are recommending custom built sites. Even if PHP Nuke is good, it has a lot of unnecessary crap in it and this goes for joomla too. As far as wordpress is concerned, even if its clean, robust and easy, its always a "mere" blog script. So, what should I do ? Any expert, please help me.

With the channels you can remove them in the same place you set them up in AdSense. You can create new ones in a variety of ways. One way is as a url channel. There you would just enter a specific url and that channel will then tell you how that page is converting.

I think what you would probably want to do to test ads is to create a custom channel for each ad type. For example you have a 120x600 add block now. You could create a channel called '120x600' and then recreate the code for the ad make sure to select that channel. You might then try another ad and channel for 250x250 ads embedded in the content or one for banner ads.

Maybe you want to try banner ads and want to see iff they work better at the beginning of a post of the end of a post. You could create channels for banner-top and banner-bottom.

You can create 200 channels so you can measure quite a few things. Once you have the channels created just check on the reports. If your banner ad at the bottom of a post gets 0.5% CTR and en eCPM of $0.30 and the ad at the top had a 2% CTR and eCPM of $1.75 you know the banner ads at the top are making you more money than the ones at the bottom.

It might take several months of experimenting to find the ads that will work best for your site.

As for the download issue I think it's because of the videos you have slowing things down. If you take Chris' advice above and only show an excerpt on the home page that should take care of most of it since those videos will only load in the individual post and not all on the home page.

I know a lot of people choose blogger since it's free, but I think it's best to have your blog hosted on your own account somewhere. I use WordPress and I'm happy with it. I also have a full site too. I only use WordPress to house my blog. WordPress is installed in a subfolder to my general site. You're not limited to using just one of the options you mentioned.

You could easily decide to have your blog running on WordPress while the rest of the site is static pages you create or have the rest of the site running off PHP Nuke.

You can also set up an entire site just in WordPress since it allows for the creation of pages and not just posts.

Well, thank you for your advice. I'm thinking of making a custom site with a wordpress blog embeded in it and a forum. I'm also looking for quality hosting and domains. But, now I learnt a great lesson. Making a website and promting it fun and games. Now I'm more determined than I was before. I'm also confident that I'll get to the top if I put in some effort and wait a few more time.

Well, about channels......is it that important that we should test ADs ? Isnt just showing the ADs important ? I mean, what difference is it gonna make if I change placements ? Well, can u pls(if u dont mind) gimme some links on resources on this topic ? Again, thank you for sincerely looking into my problem !!

With the website in general it's all a learning process. Don't think you have to get it all right the first time.

I think testing anything with your site is important. The placement and type of your ad can make a big difference in how many people click on them. It's not just about showing them, but finding which ads work the best. In might not seem like it, but you can find that when you embed a 250x250 ad in your content not many click on it, but by changing that ad to a 336x280 block lots more people click.

There's no way for you to know which ads perform the best on your site without testing it through channels. And unless you know you could be shortchanging yourself by not displaying the ads the perform the best.

Lets say you sold two products in a store. A red one and a blue one. And pretend for a minute when one sold you only knew a shoe sold, but not which color. It might be that only red shoes sold, but since you don't know you keep ordering both, wasting money purchasing the blue shoes and losing potential sales for not having enough red shoes in stock.

That's obviously an unrealistic example, but it's kind of how it works with AdSense. The only way you can know which ad type, ad placement, ad colors, etc brings in the most money is to try a few and set up channels to see which ones really do perform the best.