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Old 01-27-2008, 11:27 AM Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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We are looking for beta testers for what we believe is the most advanced SEO and search marketing system on the internet.

The system has been in development for the past two years, and we are now ready to Beta test the system to a select group of users.

Why is the system so good?
What most current systems (Such as the coop, link-vault or other similar systems) overlook is that they ignore the very fundamental aspect of what the internet is all about – and that is good quality content for the end user. By ignoring the aspect of content (which is what search engines and end users like), and instead concentrating purely on links, which without content serve little purpose to the end user, these systems are in the eyes of the search engines, purely systems to try and manipulate their algorithms and at best ignored by the SE’s and at worst can impact negatively on the sites that use them.

Our system goes right back to basics and looks at what the end user wants, and by serving the end user, it works with the search engines rather than against them.

In Search of the Perfect Link….
Anyone with any decent SEO knowledge will know that the value of a link to a search engine is dependant upon the context of where the link is. In basic terms, what site the link is on, where on the page the link occurs, the context of the site in terms of the link, and the context of the text surrounding the link. With this knowledge in hand, it doesn’t take much knowledge to work out that the perfect link in terms of SEO, is a link that:

- Is on an authority site relevant to the page to which it is linking.
- On a page that has content relevant to the page to which it is linking.
- Has anchor text relevant to the keyword for which the page is targeting.
- Is in the body of the content of the page (not stuck down in the footer).

In Search of Perfect Internet Advertising/Marketing………If you where to think of the perfect internet advertising/marketing what would it be? There are loads of different types you may think of, such as adwords, banners, scrapers, text links, pop-ups etc. All have their different merits and most will have generally been used by you to one extent or another. However, and this may be debatable to you, we believe one of the most effective forms of advertising, is editorial endorsement on a site which is relevant to your target audience – ie we are talking about full page articles on your products or services, with images and links to your targeted language pages.

In Search of Perfect Search Results…….
So what is the perfect search result for your keyword? … Number 1, I hear you say.. Well yes of course, to be number one in the search engines is a superb result, but wouldn’t it be better to come 1, 2, 3, 4…..? Impossible, I hear you say, search engines will only list you in a maximum of 2 positions for one website. Well yes you are correct there, but that doesn’t mean it is the maximum number of positions that your products or services can be listed – what if you had perfect landing pages listed on other sites? These landing pages leading to your site and providing additional filtration to your site. Not only can you get multiple listings, but by being on other respected sites, you are receiving official endorsement from these sites, and this gives your target audience more belief in your product, service and brand.

Rolling it all into one service.
This is all very well, and of course you will be saying if there was a system that do all the above, in an efficient slick system then I’d be interested. Well this is the system we have created, and we are now looking for Beta Testers to take this forward to full launch.

To qualify as a Beta Tester, you will need a PHP based website (with access to the source code) which is loosely has an IT theme.

In exchange for being a Beta Tester, we will give you a significant number of free points, and of course you get to receive all the benefits outlined above and get a head start over your competition find out about the system after full launch.

To register your interest in becoming a Beta Tester, you need to join www.talkfreelance.com (which will become the official discussion forum for the system), and then PM me at http://www.talkfreelance.com/member.php?u=3413 : with the following details:

- The site/sites you want to use in the system.
- Your Email.
- Why you think you should be allowed to become a beta tester.

We will provide you with feedback next week and hopefully you will get your chance to become involved in this exciting project from the outset.

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Old 01-27-2008, 12:32 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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You know, I'll never understand these so called "systems", many of them are flagged as cheating or manipluation in the future. I'm not saying your system will have this happen to it, but its common.

Also, considering that you don't beta test it yourself is another red flag.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:59 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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You know, I'll never understand these so called "systems", many of them are flagged as cheating or manipluation in the future. I'm not saying your system will have this happen to it, but its common.

Also, considering that you don't beta test it yourself is another red flag.
Of course many such systems are percieved by SE's as a method of cheating - simply because they add no intrinsic value to the SE's customers - the end user.

As I have explained this system works with the search engines not against them, as it serves the end user, by providing the end user with what they want - high quality unique content.

If you have ever heard any knowledgable SE advisor, saying that you should avoid adding high quality unique content to your site, then I will eat my hat. I believe the converse is try and that is why this system is unique in its approach.

With regard to Beta Testing - of course I'm going to be a Beta Tester, I have no idea where you pulled that assumption I would not be from. With any such system, its is always essential to test it with a focus group prior to launch is it not?
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Old 01-27-2008, 02:49 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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In Search of the Perfect Link….
Anyone with any decent SEO knowledge will know that the value of a link to a search engine is dependant upon the context of where the link is. In basic terms, what site the link is on, where on the page the link occurs, the context of the site in terms of the link, and the context of the text surrounding the link. With this knowledge in hand, it doesn’t take much knowledge to work out that the perfect link in terms of SEO, is a link that:

- Is on an authority site relevant to the page to which it is linking.
- On a page that has content relevant to the page to which it is linking.
- Has anchor text relevant to the keyword for which the page is targeting.
- Is in the body of the content of the page (not stuck down in the footer).
All I can say is What a load of drivel. That's pure rubbish plain and simple.

It's just the usual kind of "SEO software" crap.
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Old 01-27-2008, 02:57 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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All I can say is What a load of drivel. That's pure rubbish plain and simple.

It's just the usual kind of "SEO software" crap.
Whats pure drivel? The statement or the fact that you think our software can't produce it?

If you think the statement is pure drivel then could you please explian what you think you should look for in a high quality link? - From your statement I presume you would have us believe a footer link, in tiny font, on a non relevant MFA site is what you should look for?

If you believe the software can't produce it, then you are of course open to your own opinion. However I do think its rather ignorant to make such statements when you have no knowledge about it.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:09 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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Looks like you got more positive results on your Digital Point post than this one Guess there is mure gulliable people on DP. Good luck with your "experiment".
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:09 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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If you think the statement is pure drivel then could you please explian what you think you should look for in a high quality link? - From your statement I presume you would have us believe a footer link, in tiny font, on a non relevant MFA site is what you should look for?
Actually NONE OF THOSE would be a "high quality link", in exactly the same way that your ideas are "high quality links" either.

And I'm sure your software performs admirably as a link farm and doorway page generator though.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:24 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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Actually NONE OF THOSE would be a "high quality link", in exactly the same way that your ideas are "high quality links" either.

And I'm sure your software performs admirably as a link farm and doorway page generator though.
I think you are missing the point. The system is based around the key fundamental that has been the base of the internet and the key reason search engines exist in the first place, and why one search engine is deemed better than another - and that is high quality unique content to the end user.

If you are delivering what the user wants, then you are by default delivering what the search engines want.

The user wants high quality unique content, the search engines want high quality unique content. Our system delivers those goals.

If a search engine can recognise that they are delivering what a user wants based on a keyword, then the page is rewarded accordingly in their alogrithm, and subsequently links within that content are equally rewarded.

If you can argue that high quality unique content is not what either the end user or the search engine wants, then I believe you may have a point, however if you can't then I can't see your side of the argument, as I have repetatively said, this is the key fundamental around which the system is based and also the key point overlooked by all other supposed SEO/SEM systems.

From an SEO perspective it is also one of the key reasons why top end SEO companies will target much of their efforts at trying to get hosted webpages on sites in the demographic of the sites they want to promote - and also why they will pay significant amounts of cash to do so.

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Old 01-27-2008, 04:09 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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Right then
So your "system" is so good it can create good and unique content for any word or phrase.
And while it's doing that, create links to other sites in the "scheme" no doubt.

and would these wonderfully special, auto-generated, keyword stuffed packed high quality pages be added to the sites own navigation?

All I see from your "revolutionary" "new" software is pretty much the same thing as WPG, SEO elite and the rest of the "SEO Software" products do.

Software cannot generate good, useful, content for real people to read. It creates mechanical text to a formula defined by the programmer.
Unless of course, your software has every word ever used in whatever language, and has every rule of grammar, and can work out every possible context that any combinations of words maybe used, even when the same word can have several different meanings depending on how and where it is used. Which somehow I doubt.
Because if it did...

... You wouldn't be hawking it around SEO forums.
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Old 01-27-2008, 04:26 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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Looks like you got more positive results on your Digital Point post than this one
No surprises there then.
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Old 01-27-2008, 04:47 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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Right then
So your "system" is so good it can create good and unique content for any word or phrase.
And while it's doing that, create links to other sites in the "scheme" no doubt.

and would these wonderfully special, auto-generated, keyword stuffed packed high quality pages be added to the sites own navigation?

All I see from your "revolutionary" "new" software is pretty much the same thing as WPG, SEO elite and the rest of the "SEO Software" products do.

Software cannot generate good, useful, content for real people to read. It creates mechanical text to a formula defined by the programmer.
Unless of course, your software has every word ever used in whatever language, and has every rule of grammar, and can work out every possible context that any combinations of words maybe used, even when the same word can have several different meanings depending on how and where it is used. Which somehow I doubt.
Because if it did...

... You wouldn't be hawking it around SEO forums.
Again I believe you are making total assumptions based on no knowledge.

So to answer you questions - yes indeed it the pages can and are linked to in the sites own navigation.

Second point - who mentioned keyword stuffed, auto generated content? This was you just jumping to incorrect assumptions. Of course I am not ignorant to believe any software can create high quality content. The high quality unique content will come be written by a human - a human that will have intricate knowledge of the subject they are writing, IE the person owning a site, or selling a product on the topic.

As I keep repeating the key is high quality content that the end user appreciates. As it is in the interest of the article owner to create this content, much as they would want the same high quality content on their own site. Any site that host an article also wants the highest quality content, therefore they have to rate, and validate every article before it is placed. Therefore it is in the interests of all parties that the highest quality content to the end user is created.

I don't mind knowledgable objective criticism, but I do believe it is pretty ignorant to jump in with criticism based on pure and very incorrect assumption.
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The high quality unique content will come be written by a human - a human that will have intricate knowledge of the subject they are writing, IE the person owning a site, or selling a product on the topic.
Ok, so your super duper "SEO software" is just a text/HTML editor and linking scheme then.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:55 PM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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Ok, so your super duper "SEO software" is just a text/HTML editor and linking scheme then.
Ha, your arrogance in ignorance is exemplorary. As to the above - I guess so - just like another crap system called adwords.
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Chrishirst, why do you keep feeding the squirrel? It just keeps coming back!
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Old 01-28-2008, 03:47 AM Re: Beta Testers Rq'd for Next Generation SEO/SEM system
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Chrishirst, why do you keep feeding the squirrel? It just keeps coming back!
As I have said before - objective criticism is fine. I do however take offense to totally speculative (and totally incorrect) slating. Effectively you are doing exactly the same thing as criticising a book which you haven't even opened the cover of. In any situation in life I would call this extreamly arrogant behaviour.
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As I have said before - objective criticism is fine. I do however take offense to totally speculative (and totally incorrect) slating. Effectively you are doing exactly the same thing as criticising a book which you haven't even opened the cover of. In any situation in life I would call this extreamly arrogant behaviour.
But, if we've read 5,000 books with the same concept and idea you can make a judgement call, which 9.5x out of 10 is correct. I'll tell you what, I will personally apologize and provide you with a free PR7 backlink from my Volcano Research website if your so called system works, for life!

I'll be watching results on here and DP, I'm sure you posted on other forums I go on as well. We'll see if I'm as arrogant and foolish as you say.
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