Originally Posted by heretostay

Eveloution is wrong! It is a lie forged by satin himself and all who believe it are no better than him.

Evolution is wrong? It's not up for debate I'm afraid, the scientific consensus is that evolution happens and is happen still.

Out of interest, seeing as it seems you know a lot about science, where do you stand on Atomic Theory, or Plate Techtonics? I fully expect no opinion on those fields, so why evolution? What makes you an expert?

It amazes me that people still talk about 'belief' in evolution. This is science. Science is not about beliefs. It's about explanations of phenomena in the natural world. There is no room for debate in evolution anymore than there is in cellular biology. Science isn't about debates, it's about facts, hypothoses and theories.

I don't think you're going to get a response from heretostay, seeing as how he's banned.

Science isn't about debates, it's about facts, hypothoses and theories.

Theories and hypotheses are in and of themselves a continuing debate, lest they cease to be true science. Science, unlike religion, doesn't have many things it considers immutable fact. There are far more theories than what science considers to be a "law". Thus science, again unlike much of religion, is able itself to evolve. But keep in mind that it was the scientific community that said powered flight was impossible, because it was mired in preconceived notions. More recently, the medical community said the human brain couldn't rewire itself "on purpose", and that's been disproven.

There will always be people so mired in what they believe to be right that they cannot progress, indeed, they try to keep others from doing so. You will find them in every type of imaginable community. The less they know, the more vocal they are about it.

tim

Just thought I would mention this, some of you might know this already or perhaps not. The Catholic Church now recognizes Evolution which was put into place by John Paul II. Perhaps some of the other Religious Organizations will also support Evolution if not now but in the future.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1034.html

The video was great. We are obviously similar to monkeys as we are came from apes. The similarities shown in the video makes sense but we are way intelligent than they are.

Wheres the missing link then? why haven't we found it? Explain that please.

Originally Posted by wolfafterurazz

Wheres the missing link then? why haven't we found it? Explain that please.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science...ref=newssearch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinius

It was all over the news about a month ago. There was a history channel special and everything:

http://www.history.com/content/the-link

Obviously it isn't definitive proof, and there is debate regarding whether the term "missing link" is appropriate, but it is evidence in support.

i don't think so if this is so there should be a new humman being years have went thousand but we are the same.

Evolutionary processes can be observed over millions of years.

On the other hand, it may be better to learn spelling and grammar before biological science.

Originally Posted by serandfae

Theories and hypotheses are in and of themselves a continuing debate, lest they cease to be true science. Science, unlike religion, doesn't have many things it considers immutable fact.

Any scientist will agree that, as scientists, they couldn't claim anything 100%. As we all know, the only universal truth that exists is mathematics.

Scientists do debate, this is true. But they do have many things that are immutable facts. Facts in science are everywhere. It is these facts that they use to build theories together, which are explanations of facts. But for the layperson to start debating entire theories is just ridiculous. Scientists debate the contents of theories from a knowledgable standpoint, in the area of their expertise. Not just because it disagrees with their personal beliefs. And they certainly wouldn't debate the theory of evolution in it's whole, that would just be pointless.

Originally Posted by serandfae

There are far more theories than what science considers to be a "law". Thus science, again unlike much of religion, is able itself to evolve. But keep in mind that it was the scientific community that said powered flight was impossible, because it was mired in preconceived notions. More recently, the medical community said the human brain couldn't rewire itself "on purpose", and that's been disproven.

Theories aren't something which "grow-up" into laws. Laws are entirely different. Even if evolution was proved to be 100% correct, it would remain a theory. A theory in science is quite different to a theory in everyday life. A theory is an explanation of facts. When it comes to the theory of Evolution, it isn't the actual existance of evolution they are debating, it's how it happens that might be open for debate. Evolution has been witnessed, is being witnessed, has been tested and re-tested.

Originally Posted by wolfafterurazz

Wheres the missing link then? why haven't we found it? Explain that please.

It was found not too long ago:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...l-missing-link

And in true scientific manner, it raises more questions than it answers.

You have to remember that just because something is missing from a theory, doesn't make the theory invalid. A theory is a huge construct of all the current knowledge in a chosen field, and is constantly evolving itself as new evidence is found and added to this collection of knowledge.

Getting back to the original post, the video was intended as humorous, a jab at those who think we are more than we are. I found it hilarious.

But there's another side to that, which was my original point: People develop preconceived notions and react violently to those with different ones. That's not solely in the religious camp, either. If you don't believe yourself susceptible to a fundamentalist mindset you are that much more likely to develop one.

Remember the very recent example I cited about the medical field reacting negatively to the notion that the human brain could rewire itself, much less in a directed fashion? Notions that go against what the scientific community sees as fact don't receive funding. And I KNOW that there are those who fudge results to retain said funding. Why? Because we're all a bunch of monkeys. Human nature is pretty dismal, and gets darker by the second. Religion really can't be blamed for holding back science; it hasn't been a real threat for about a century, and the Scopes trial really put the ax in religious interference in teaching science for good, IMO.

Religion and science, to paraphrase Carl Sagan, try to get to similar answers by far different means. The former requires faith, the latter proof, or at least fact. Seeing as how those are exclusive, the two shouldn't be in conflict. But we're all monkeys, so we let it be anyway.

I don't get religious types that demand teaching "intelligent design" (ie, creationism, a fundamentalist religious doctrine, which has no place in a science classroom) or that react against teaching evolution. There are plenty of Christians who are true scientists, still more who know that evolution is the best explanation for the evidence we have thus far.

Interestingly, most people don't know much about evolutionary theory. We're not direct descendants from modern apes or monkeys (though we're more closely related to apes). Evolutionary theory as it applies to humans is that apes, monkeys and humans have a common ancestor; Ida is a link that goes back much further in time even than that.

We're still just a bunch of monkeys.

tim

if evoloution is right why not one more evolution.

Ncie Explanation By edgray but some one want to know more about then y you not going for google or some one else... wikipedia is ncie source i think