For learning PHP we can use w3schools websites it is best for the freshers who wants to learn PHP.

Originally Posted by FarrisFahad

I I think that there is no need to learn CSS and HTML. Because Dreamweaver CS5 can do both without coding, although you need to learn them "CSS & HTML" if you want to be good at coding websites

I am saying that because I am currently learning PHP and I have a basic understanding of CSS and HTML

FarrisFahad

I'm confused. In your first sentence you say "there is no need to learn"......then you say "you need to learn them if you want to be good at coding"

Chris,

You are the best among all the replies and I hope you could guide me with my learning.

I have completed all the tutorials from w3shools, tizag and a few from lynda. Now I feel I know more than basics of PHP MYSQL.
I have been working as SEO for about 5 years and not a beginner as long as PHP MYSQL is concern.

Also, I had studied pasal, C & C++ in college, however I'm not mastered in any but know basic syntax.

Could you please guide me how can I implement all learnt (PHP & MYSQL) in REAL web development? where I can start from? which code editor is best to work on.

Hoping for the best advice.

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Start off with learning how a HTML document is structured, don't get involved in styling with CSS until you can put the building blocks of HTML together, and you have a good understanding of the basics of inline and block elements and how the document flow works.

Then you can move onto positioning and floating.

Pretty colours and fonts are a low priority at first.
What you don't need to know is how to design a page, your part is the development. That is, how to take a picture of a page from a designer and turn it into code.

Originally Posted by FarrisFahad

I I think that there is no need to learn CSS and HTML. Because Dreamweaver CS5 can do both without coding, although you need to learn them "CSS & HTML" if you want to be good at coding websites

I am saying that because I am currently learning PHP and I have a basic understanding of CSS and HTML

FarrisFahad

But what are you going to do when the DW created code goes wrong and you have to fix it??

For all learning -- Wmt / tt is your friend...Don't forget about Google though.

PHP is a royalty free license. This means that you don’t have to pay anyone to use it and no one can demand a fee to use it later on.. Infact, using the language has no direct costs at all.. and PHP has better performance ratings than other programming languages do. PHP is fast, efficient, and works great in almost any web browser as well as integrating into almost any server..

Originally Posted by gladiolus1

and works great in almost any web browser

PHP doesn't work in ANY web browser. It's run on the server

Originally Posted by gladiolus1

PHP is a royalty free license. This means that you don’t have to pay anyone to use it and no one can demand a fee to use it later on.. Infact, using the language has no direct costs at all.. and PHP has better performance ratings than other programming languages do. PHP is fast, efficient, and works great in almost any web browser as well as integrating into almost any server..

PHP also sucks. Comparing it to 'other programming languages' reminds me of this thread.

PHP is not at all efficient. Something as simple as naming conventions are screwed up. Sometimes, you put the subject first, then parameters. Others, you put the parameters first, then the subject at the end. And in other times, the subject is sort of in the middle with an offset at the end. It's certainly not efficient to write.

Also, as lizciz said, PHP runs on the server. This is why .php files won't work if you try to open them in Firefox without a webserver running.

I am learning php also ... a very basic novice only ....

WHy is it i read that php is no good and then i read a ton that say it is the best! WHich is it! My entire site is being made php/mysql and it was said to be the best way to go!

Originally Posted by cpeeler21

WHy is it i read that php is no good and then i read a ton that say it is the best! WHich is it! My entire site is being made php/mysql and it was said to be the best way to go!

I guess you could say it's the best way to go, because MySQL is scalable, efficient (as far as I know), and PHP integrates extremely easily with it. Many beginners start with PHP since it's a huge step up from HTML/CSS/JS, which is exactly what I did before I actually got a host with PHP (a few years ago). Yet still, I haven't gone further to learn another, more desirable language like Perl.

I really want to learn other languages (I know some really basic C, but that's it), and I definitely could, because once you have one language down, the logic remains the same. The only thing that changes is syntax and methods to write and test the code. If you can think in code, then it won't be tough to move on to another language.

But back on topic, PHP is fine for most people's needs and works just fine. Remember guys, this thread is about Learning PHP.

Originally Posted by cpeeler21

WHy is it i read that php is no good and then i read a ton that say it is the best! WHich is it! My entire site is being made php/mysql and it was said to be the best way to go!

People differ it their likes and dislikes of programming language, I personally dislike the syntax of PHP because there is no convention in naming the functions and therefore it looks like what it is, a language designed by a committee.

That doesn't mean to say that I will not use PHP purely on those grounds.

I agree with the weird function naming, but once you get familiar with them, do you really notice that?
I don't.

Got It!

To answer the original poster, I have recently decided to add PHP and MySQL to my tool belt and the first, and possibly most frustrating, thing to do is create a PHP Development Environment. It can be very confusing to someone with no programming/server experience to understand why it is needed. I don't know what your experience is so I'll just play it safe and assume you know very little. No disrespect!

Usually when a page is loaded from a server by a browser, the browser sees the HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and other browser scripting languages, then constructs, styles, and displays the page based on the browser's understanding of the languages.

PHP, however, is a foreign language to browsers. Opening a .php file with your browser from your computer is like Peppering your vocabulary with Mandarin while speaking to someone who only knows English, French, and German. This is where a server is needed to act as a translator, or middle man. If you don't have a server, the only way to test your .php pages while learning would be to upload them to a server through your web hosting company.

A PHP Dev Environment is created to avoid this. It is done by:

Option 1:
Follow W3Schools.com's intructions and
-Download Apache, a server that can be installed on your computer and will be used to translate your PHP before sending it to the browser.
-Download PHP, to teach your server the language it will be translating.
-Download MySQL, a database to store information on the server, such as submitted forms from your pages.
-Then figure out how to install and set them all up properly.

or Option 2:
-Download a ready-to-use Developing Environment, which includes all three, setup with one install, and usually a UI to simplify the use.

Here are the few that I know of so far (btw AMP = Apache, MySQL, PHP/Perl/Python)
-Xampp (I'm currently using this one)
-WampServer (Windows Only)
-MAMP (Mac only)
-AppServ

Also found this comparison of WAMPS (Windows AMP).

Use at your own risk though. I've only used Xampp. I hope I was able to help.

I will follow ur instruction to connect wampserver. Hope this time help to connect.

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I have newbie,I registered for the purpose of learn php...

For learning PHP we can use w3schools websites it is best for the freshers who wants to learn PHP.

Haha, this thread reminds me of this post I found the other day:

PHP Sucks, but it Doesn't Matter

A little outdated, but still pretty much on-point.

My guess is that you then already know HTML and CSS. These are both very easy to learn compared to PHP. Where these take months. PHP will take years. You'll also need to learn SQL and database setup. I've been using PHP for years and I still struggle with it sometimes. Although if you already know javascript then it will be much easier to learn as they are the Spanish and portuguese of spoken languages.