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Old 02-09-2007, 06:06 PM What Type of Entity to Be?
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:48 PM
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I haven't been here long but get the gist that this website is geared not just to a US market so you might want to qualify what markets this applies to.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:50 PM
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Corporations are also double taxed, but you can get around that if you just pay all of the companies profits to your salary.
This is only true for C Corporations. I recommend that you look into S Corporations.
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:32 PM
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As far as claiming certain items such as new computer, camera, etc, for business, does that work if you work out of your house or do you have to have an actual office in order to qualify for all those tax deductions?
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:40 PM
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The tax laws apply whether you have a seperate office or not.

In fact, if your office is at your home you can deduct part of your mortgage or rent and part of your utility bills from your income taxes.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:26 PM
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Is it worth it to establish myself a business if I'm not earning a whole lot?

Also, what is the difference between S and C corps?
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:28 AM
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Nice article.

Don't forget to file those tax forms with the state government depending on state tax laws even if you have no income to report.
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:11 AM
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Also, what is the difference between S and C corps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_corporation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_corporation
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:22 AM
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If you don't have an accountant I advise you go find one..
Don't use Uncle Fred anymore? A good accountant will advise you
which kind of Corporation to create. They know laws better then
the law makers & they know what you can deduct & what you can't.
Depend on the size of your business, expect to pay at least $500 /year
just for your Corporation Taxes to be filed the right way. You'll sleep a whole
lot better knowing your accountants name is on the bottom of those returns,
then Uncle Freds...Trust Me
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:56 AM
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Thanks will. I should have looked that up on my own. h34r:
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:20 PM
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In regards to deducting rent and utilities, does all of that need to be under my business name? What happens if I'm a sole proprieter? I would like to read up on this. Do you have any other resources that I can browse?
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:57 AM
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I used to work on wall street for over 6 years in the stock market. I am not a CPA but from my personal knowledge from my experience from taking the series 7 test and 64 to become a licensed Stock broker. I had to learn the tax ramafacations and tax shelters for all types of stocks, bonds, corporations, DPP's, Realestate.... ETC

In my personal opinion one of the best ways to set up a company would be to set up a DPP(Direct Participation Program) or a LLP(Limited Liability Partneship). The LPP differs from a LLC(Limited Liabilty Corporation) in many ways. LP's are usually formed as a tax shelter. I am not going to get into the differences between the LLP & LLC. First I will say the cost to set up a LLP is usually more costly than fee's to set up a Corporation. The reasons being the LLP is a much more benefial way to set up a company. However the LLP may not be suitable or appropriate for everyone looking to form a company.

The corporate tax bracket if I am not mistaken is 36% maybe even higher. If you elect to be classified as a small business corporation(S election) you do get tax benefit as well as avoid getting double taxed!

The LLP does not fall into the corporate tax bracket due to the fact it is not a corporation, it is a participation program. The thing that makes the LLP beneficial to form over any Corp is that first and fore most the partnership has no set tax bracket. It benefits from the flow thru tax treatment. Which means any and all income after operational costs will be taxed at the partners OI(Ordinary Income) tax bracket. So your tax bracket would be your Ordinary Income bracket, that is one of the biggest benefits. The other benefit in my eyes is that the way the partnership is formed you have GP's(General Partners) and you can have unlimited SP'S(Sponsoring Partners). The role of the GP or GP's is to over see the daily duties & operations as well as make all business decisions for the LLP. The GP's do get a salary and a GP can also be a SP. The SP's are merely investors in the program they have no say in the future of the company or how the company is run. They get a percent of the profits after the deductions of operational and salary costs. The total liability for the SP's is the amount of the original invesment to become a SP and a partner in the program.

I can go on and write a book as to why I think the LP or DP is the best way to go. So I will leave off saying this. If you are looking to form a company do your due diligence. Definatley look into forming a DP or LP it might be worth your time.
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:07 PM
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The tax laws apply whether you have a seperate office or not.

In fact, if your office is at your home you can deduct part of your mortgage or rent and part of your utility bills from your income taxes.
Assuming we're talking about the US: You have to be able to prove the business use of the items you deduct.

As far as deducting part of your mortgage and utility bills, you can to that if you have an area of your home that you use regularly and exclusively for business. Then you can deduct an amount that's prorated to the square footage of the business. (Ie: if you 10% of the square footage of your home is used for business you could deduct 10% of mortgage, utilities, etc.

The caveat: there are some tax implications when you sell your home.

Check the IRS.gov site for information - use their search function to search for office in the home or business in the home.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:14 AM
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Hmmm. Deciding upon a business entity structure based upon the posts on a public forum is dubious at best. There are many choices and the ramifications are not always easily undone.

I have already seen incorrect statements on this thread about both structure and tax consequences. Be careful, folks....
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