Once a useful site becomes known in time it will gather many visitors...and many links backs...and thus the PR

There are lots of useful sites outhere...the problem is that they are not so known to the public (because either they are too new,

Yep, but it is how the site is MARKETED NOT the "optimising" that makes that happen.

ro they are poorly optimized...

The optimising is very little to do with it. You could have a site that has a superb design, perfectly crafted text, no Flash elements, no javascript needed to display content. In fact nothing at all that puts a bar in the way of SE bots.
But, if it isn't marketed properly it will probably never see light of day in the SERPs

Originally Posted by willcode4beer

I think you are missing the point.
The important thing is the "hundreds of thousands of visitors".

The PR is irrelevant.

To scorpionagency: Host the page yoursel, keep the content unique. I believe this has already been mentioned in the thread

You're correct, I mentioned it 2 or 3 times already on either page 1 or 2 of these threads. I was noticing that everyone was skipping to the last page to post & not reading the previous pages, so without totally duplicating my previous posts, I made a quick reminder post

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Yep, but it is how the site is MARKETED NOT the "optimising" that makes that happen.


The optimising is very little to do with it. You could have a site that has a superb design, perfectly crafted text, no Flash elements, no javascript needed to display content. In fact nothing at all that puts a bar in the way of SE bots.
But, if it isn't marketed properly it will probably never see light of day in the SERPs

Optimizing a site IS part of marketing. Sooner or later the SE bots will pick your site up. Once it shows up in SERPS (being optimized) other people will know about it. If you have a great content people will start talking about you and linking to you. And here's the marketing ...

Of course, you can have a site popular in 5 years doing little marketing...or popular in 1 years doing much more marketing (and not just optimizing).

While it's true that optimizing is a part of marketing, all the off-site tactics (in the case of this thread, "Article Writing", or showing up in SERPS), have nothing to do with "Optimizing Your Site". Any optimizing you do is done to your *own* site.

write unique articles and submite it to blog (Guest Posting). It is best way to increase search engine traffic.

Originally Posted by sarpras2005@yah

More than 100 articles posted in over 300 websites with links back to your home site are very effective advertising. One of the main reasons for using articles to promote your website is that in each article, you are effectively creating a link back to your website.

yeah you are right besued posting 100 articles in 300 sites will be good how do you that?that's a lot..