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Old 07-05-2006, 11:08 AM when will the well go dry?
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So with all of the sites, monetization, scams, schemes, potential, etc and more popping up everyday .. is anyone ever worried or considered that it can all slow down at some point?

Always a topic that i have pondered .. There are only but so many domain names and so may similar sites that can be launched before only a few survive.

So whats your opinion? :detective:
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:17 AM
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I think that people will learn (eventually) but, yeah, it will probably go down a little bit.

Scams will always be present, that's the nature of people to want more, and to be lazy at some point too. Easy money, everyone wants easy money :P
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:24 AM
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Good point... But do you think that at some point vendors/advertisers will pull away from this avenue of advertising? I ask that in suggestion to maybe say the scammers are earning some genrous profiting to banner/adsense/ypn payments, but the advertisers arent seeing the same rotation in business..

I myself have thought of advertising with adsense/ypn; it wasnt the cost of it that pushed me not to, but the scammers getting the money with click scams and not really supporting me as a sponsor ..

Im not annoyed by many ways of the .. ummm ways to get clicks; so long as its a real person whose clicking and will actually find the links useful ...
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:36 AM
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I don't know exactly how AdSense / YPN works, but if they set a cookie when you click an ads, it's not really lost. Well, it is if a scammer uses a script or something, but if it's just "Click the ads to support the site" or something like that, there's still hope for a future sale.

Of course, the **** ROI is all frelled up because of certain scammers, there's no doubt about it, but there's nothing to do except manually approving each ad placement.

And Google / Yahoo will never doo that. Imagine all the costs involved
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:37 AM
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Makes sense Fred ...
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:46 PM
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I am no expert but it seems that it will probably go more towards CPA eventually instead of cpc where some one actually has to fill something out or buy something for the guy showing the ad to get paid.
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:58 PM
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I myself have thought of advertising with adsense/ypn; it wasnt the cost of it that pushed me not to, but the scammers getting the money with click scams and not really supporting me as a sponsor ..
Don't get Adsense/YPN confused with Adwords/YSM. And there are new systems being developed to combat click-fraud, though it is a valid concern. We dropped Y!'s content match partners after realizing that NONE of the clicks we received ever converted.

In answer to the original question, I don't believe the well will dry. Rather, it will evolve into new business models for advertisers and revenue streams for publishers. Video ads, Adsense Radio, etc. And if all should come crashing down, there's always old-fashioned online ad sales.
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Old 07-05-2006, 01:29 PM
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Things come and go - there was a time when there were the usual animated gif banners everywhere, popups everywhere etc - they are all slowly giving away more and more ground. No doubt something else will come along and "do an Adsense" which we'll all then jump on.

I was suprised when Adsense launched and it was CPC - I'd er...."made" some money years previously with a 5c-per-click thing run by Geocities years and years ago. It was so open to abuse it was absurd and I wasn't really surpised to see it all die at the time. I imagine that in maybe a few years Adsense will change from CPC to 100% CPA too.
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Old 07-05-2006, 04:01 PM
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Don't get Adsense/YPN confused with Adwords/YSM. And there are new systems being developed to combat click-fraud, though it is a valid concern. We dropped Y!'s content match partners after realizing that NONE of the clicks we received ever converted.

In answer to the original question, I don't believe the well will dry. Rather, it will evolve into new business models for advertisers and revenue streams for publishers. Video ads, Adsense Radio, etc. And if all should come crashing down, there's always old-fashioned online ad sales.
great perspective :thumbup:
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:41 PM
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Not anytime soon IMO. More and more ad dollars are being moved to the Internet with every passing day. It is the future.
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:54 AM
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One thing is for certain. Advertising will never go away, its what makes the business world go. People will always want to advertise on the internet, so there will always be options for us webmasters.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:29 AM
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One thing is for certain. Advertising will never go away, its what makes the business world go. People will always want to advertise on the internet, so there will always be options for us webmasters.
Well said. I was going to reply with the exact same thoughts. :yes:
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:37 AM
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I dont think even the youngest of us on this site will see the well run dry. The dot.com bubble and huge advertising burst once and came back in a smarter form.

advertising online is just as effective as advertising on television/radio/newspapers/magazines in relation to the cost.
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