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Old 08-22-2006, 04:26 PM I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8 vs Flash Pro 8
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I want to design a website. Which one is better? why? And when I get good enough I want to take the ACE (Adobe Certified Expert) or ACP (Adobe Certified Professional). Which software would be easy to take the exam? Thnx!!

P.S. I forgot to add Flash Pro 8.

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Old 08-22-2006, 05:48 PM Re: I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8
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It's not a choice of which one, as the 2 programs have nothing in common.
Photoshop is used for creating the GRAPHICS for a site, creating the graphical mock-up. PS does not do HTML and you should not use that which ImageReady spits out.

Dreamweaver is a tool for web page creation - that means the html and css for a site. If you don't know HTML now and cannot create a page with notepad, then Dreamweaver isn't going to help you build a good site. Learn HTML from the ground up first, then learn CSS to go with it.

Then you use BOTH programs to create a site.
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:03 AM Re: I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8
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LadynRed is right - they are completely different. Plus Flash is an animation application used for banners, intros, games, or even a fully animated website. If you are a newbie Id suggest maybe try a bit of each, and see where you feel most comfortable.
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:31 PM Re: I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8
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If it helps, my company writes plug-ins for Photoshop. One of which converts layered Photoshop designs to working web sites - handy for jumping between Photoshop and DreamWeaver (http://www.medialab.com/sitegrinder)

And the other plug-in converts layered Photoshop designs to Flash .fla files (ready to be edited and animated in Flash). http://www.medialab.com/psd2fla)

For a modest website, you could probably just use Photoshop and SiteGrinder, but for a more complex one you'd just use SiteGrinder as a go-between Photoshop and DreamWeaver.

And, the PSD2FLA plug-in assumes you have and know how to use Flash. It's a great utility, but it's strictly conversion (unlike SiteGrinder, which has lots of features like php email contact form support, buttons, menus, etc.)

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Old 08-24-2006, 11:24 AM Re: I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8
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Hey Chris !
I've been trying to get my company to let me have a copy of PSD2FLA for 2 years now. I checked to out the trial, what a great plug-in ! I may just have to buy it myself .

My only complaint with things like SiteGrinder is that most tend to spit out old code.. meaning nested tables, old <font> tags etc. How does SG stack up ?
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Old 08-24-2006, 12:06 PM Re: I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8
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SiteGrinder outputs always valid XHTML 1.1 and CSS. It does not use tables for layout and no slicing is required.

The code is very light and very easy to edit. SiteGrinder maximizes re-use of CSS entries, as well as graphics. If a graphic repeats on a page, or repeats across different pages, SiteGrinder will make just one graphic file for it, not multiple. If a Photoshop layer is a solid color rectangle, SiteGrinder just outputs an HTML <div>, no graphic needed at all. When there are lots of overlapping non-interactive graphics, SiteGrinder automatically merges them together. The CSS is automatically organized such that shared elements appear in a file used by multiple pages. It's very slick.

Instead of slicing, you name your Photoshop layers for what role you want them to play in the final document (example: click me-button & click me-rollover ). These little words at the end of layer names are known as "hints". Most layers don't need a hint, but you'll typically use some.

Here are some video tutorials, most users start with these just to get the feel for it, though they are somewhat elementary: SiteGrinder Screen Movie Tutorials And, here is a full list of hints, which should give a sample of what it can do, although CSS borders, links, and many other things are done in the UI, not through hints: SiteGrinder Support complete_hint_list

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Old 08-24-2006, 12:22 PM Re: I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8
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Kewl, thanks for the explanation. It's good to know some developers are coming up to snuff with XHTML and CSS - good job ! I d/l the trial.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:30 PM Re: I'm a newbie!! Photoshop CS/2 vs Dreamweaver 8
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Great posts everyone. I am stating to learn html for the same reason, to learn from the ground up
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