Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
12-11-2006, 05:48 PM
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Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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It says in the ToS, and in many Adsense sites, to NOT click on your own ads, as your account will be banned. I understand the reasoning behind that, however, why doesn't google just ignore any clicks from your own site? There are times that you are on your site, and you almost click on one of your ads by accident, because you became distracted, or because the page did not load properly, and you pointed your mouse over the ad region.
I don't think it would be that hard to implement, but then again, I'm no coder 
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12-11-2006, 08:46 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 2,114
Name: Matt. (>',')>
Location: London, England.
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How would they know who you are and whos clicks to ignore?
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12-16-2006, 02:20 AM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 63
Name: Cuong Dao M.
Location: Vietnam
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@stOx, according to our IP when we loged into our Adsense & click to Google Ads, cookie, session... I think Google can do this if they want... but the thing is they don't want to do it
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12-16-2006, 01:30 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 2,114
Name: Matt. (>',')>
Location: London, England.
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That method would be far from reliable.
People on dial-up get a new IP every 2 hours and some people share an external IP among thousands of other people. Some people have cookies disabled and some people don't login to thier adsense account for months.
It's far easier to just have self control and not click your own adverts.
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12-22-2006, 07:44 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Name: Leon
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I agree with Stox. But There seems to be a problem, what If a visitor come to your site and deliberately and repeatedly start clicking on your Adsense ads? I know its rare but possbile. Just assume! The visitor could be your enemy and want your site get banned by google. He could come to your site daily and start clicking on your ads like bullets from a gun machine, then who will going to suffer? how does google know that its not you.
This is the only question that worries me sometimes 
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12-22-2006, 08:00 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Sometimes I actually am interested in what is beyond the advert on my own site but don't dare click for reasons mentioned above. I would love to be able to follow the links without getting paid for them.
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12-22-2006, 08:06 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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What gets me is now they are even finding a way to eliminate you and your accumulated balance if you are using those surf for clicks programs. To me, it makes perfect sense, your sites get promoted, other people click your ads. The thing is they apparently qualify this as begging for or forcing people to click. I don't think its begging because they really don't have to click if they don't want to while going by your site. The site moderators say they will disqualify or deactivate members who aren't clicking, but then it's not the webmasters themselves who are doing the "forcing". As far as begging, well you didn't beg anyone to join this program to click your ads in particular. Personally, I think the Google people are way off base on ignoring these programs as promotion tools.
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12-22-2006, 08:25 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by webstreak
What gets me is now they are even finding a way to eliminate you and your accumulated balance if you are using those surf for clicks programs. To me, it makes perfect sense, your sites get promoted, other people click your ads. The thing is they apparently qualify this as begging for or forcing people to click. I don't think its begging because they really don't have to click if they don't want to while going by your site. The site moderators say they will disqualify or deactivate members who aren't clicking, but then it's not the webmasters themselves who are doing the "forcing". As far as begging, well you didn't beg anyone to join this program to click your ads in particular. Personally, I think the Google people are way off base on ignoring these programs as promotion tools.
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I think I'm on Big G's side on this one. They get more money for valuable clicks, if the clicks coming to them start to become just clicks and not genuinely interested participants then Big G starts to lose money; their public now so they need to please the shareholders first.
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12-23-2006, 08:33 AM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 22,280
Location: Blackpool. UK
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I don't think its begging because they really don't have to click if they don't want to while going by your site. The site moderators say they will disqualify or deactivate members who aren't clicking, but then it's not the webmasters themselves who are doing the "forcing".
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That's a bit like saying
"Yes, I hired the team of shoplifters, but I didn't ask them to steal anything"
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12-23-2006, 11:56 AM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Originally Posted by chrishirst
That's a bit like saying
"Yes, I hired the team of shoplifters, but I didn't ask them to steal anything"
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LMAO.
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12-23-2006, 03:03 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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I'm on Google's side here too. People on those autosurf networks aren't really interested in the ads. They'd surfing and clicking so others sill surf and click on their site. The whole system is trying to cheat not Google, but the businesses on the other side of those ads.
Republikan if you use Firefox there's an extension called AdSense Preview. It creates a new menu which allows you to see what ads would likely show on any given page. You can click on those ads through the preview and it won't count as a click or cost the advertiser anything.
I don't have it installed at the moment, but I did for awhile and it was pretty good at showing the ads Google would show. Usually it matched the ones I had on the page. Maybe it was about 80% accurate. When I clicked it never recorded anything on my end as a click and I was able to check out what was on the other side of some of the ads on my site.
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01-07-2007, 03:59 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Tip you guys might like to use (only after you've laid out your ads)
To avoid accidental clicks add this to your Windows Host File
127.0.0.1 googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
I also add
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
so Analytics doesn't record my hits and vistits.
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01-12-2007, 12:48 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devaid
Tip you guys might like to use (only after you've laid out your ads)
To avoid accidental clicks add this to your Windows Host File
127.0.0.1 googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
I also add
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
so Analytics doesn't record my hits and vistits.
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good idea !thank for sharing! 
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01-16-2007, 09:16 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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stOx - theres something called " IP Address" 
google it, see what it does - i swear its a miracle what ip can do. u see, google can identify your computer, and every clik that comes from there is ignored. And what that u ask? how do they know my IP address? well you did register to adsense didn u? they take record of ur IP, thats how they know u clicked ur own ads  think bout that. to everyone here - go learn talmud!! ( cool hebrew subject)
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01-16-2007, 09:53 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 2,114
Name: Matt. (>',')>
Location: London, England.
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Yeah, I know what an IP is. But if people have a dynamic IP (which 99% of people do to some extent) google are going to have a hard time keeping track of who you are. And if people are on dial-up they would have to login to thier adsense account every 2 hours for google to keep track of them.
Like i said, It would be far from reliable.
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01-16-2007, 11:02 PM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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do you agree with me that an IP address reflect how you are, your computer location location and your details. Please note that we are talk about the BIG g"
they have technolegy and proffesors and compouter scientisits working on furulas and many new ways to improve ETC... they know! its like saying, and i am exajurating here - Its like asking: "if you sin, how does g-d knows that it was u, and not someother guy - maybe your neightbour?..." see the metaphor?!
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01-17-2007, 03:54 AM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 2,114
Name: Matt. (>',')>
Location: London, England.
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An IP address can only be used to identify someone while they still have that IP.
unless someone uses a 100% static IP address there is no way you can relaibly use the IP to track them over a period of time.
If my IP changes how are google supposed to know that;
a) my IP has changed?, and
b) which IP i am now using?
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01-17-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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I think that Google have best programers in the world, which can spy all impresions of your ads.
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01-17-2007, 09:37 AM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 2,114
Name: Matt. (>',')>
Location: London, England.
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They have clever people working for them, But even the cleverest people can't tie two seperate IP addresses to one person with any degree of accuracy. It's impossible.
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01-17-2007, 09:48 AM
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Re: Why doesn't Google just ignore your own clicks?
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Posts: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stOx
They have clever people working for them, But even the cleverest people can't tie two seperate IP addresses to one person with any degree of accuracy. It's impossible.
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