Just made this blog: http://www.bloggerskills.com/adsense...er-site-basis/

Let me know what you guys think about what they are doing.

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IMO, I think that's fair, AdSense should be allowed to do whatever they want, the internets not fair, just like life.

Apparently you missed the part where they say one thing in their TOS and then totally disregard their TOS for certain sites. No where in their TOS does it state that certain sites are allowed to run other contexual ads on the same page. It clearly stats that no website is allowed to present any other contexual advertisements, whether ads or links, on the same page as adsense.

I don't think it is fair at all. However, Adsense can do what they will. My look upon Google since they introduced Google Adsense has been going down. The "Oh so great Google" is no longer a feeling of mine. Now they are with the other big Internet companies, those that I wouldn't trust because they could stab you in the back anytime. But for any company to grow these days, it seems you can't trust them.

Google = AOL/Microsoft/Apple/Yahoo/Fox, ect. ect.

Seems like many people are loosing the great image they had for Google a couple years ago aswell. I still wouldn't mind working for them though, heh.

Are you certain that large sites and or networks with their own account rep don't agree to a separate TOS than the one the average sites do? And that the high earners group isn't actually considered a separate network?

No I am not certain. I just want to know what the deal is It looks bad on Google's part for their public TOS to say one thing and then allow plenty of big sites to do another without making note on it. It would also present more work for them to do on the abuse reporting side.

left you a comment. You may care to look at some seochat.com articles. They use both.

both, on the same page.

http://www.seochat.com
http://www.stangnet.com
http://www.jeepforum.com
http://www.sprintusers.com


Anyone else care to add to the list of sites that run both on the same page?

Did I misread the email? It seems that both of them (the TOS and the email) are saying the same thing ... you can display intellitxt on pages without google ads? Looks to me like they're simply talking on a per page basis rather than a per site basis. Then again, I could have misunderstood.

Originally Posted by Submerge

I don't think it is fair at all. However, Adsense can do what they will. My look upon Google since they introduced Google Adsense has been going down. The "Oh so great Google" is no longer a feeling of mine. Now they are with the other big Internet companies, those that I wouldn't trust because they could stab you in the back anytime. But for any company to grow these days, it seems you can't trust them.

Google = AOL/Microsoft/Apple/Yahoo/Fox, ect. ect.

Seems like many people are loosing the great image they had for Google a couple years ago aswell. I still wouldn't mind working for them though, heh.

I don't think that statement is fair at all. Google is a publicly traded company and needs to make money somehow for it's shareholders. They can't do this on good will alone. Thus, they have Google Adsense and Google Adwords. If it weren't for these two programs, Google wouldn't have a business model, still be in existence, and a lot of webmasters would have to find other jobs.

Sure there are great things about companies that do things just for the sake of it. Think about all the other things that Google has. Analytics, Writely, Picasa, Trends, gMail; All of those things are offered for free. The only thing Google makes money off of is advertising, so I don't think they're some big evil corporation who will stab you in the back.

-Nick

You proved my point . . .

Anyways, on topic, I think Lee should get in here and clear this up if one of his domains is doing this, he should have an answer for us fellow members.

You totally missed the entire point of the post lol. Google is allowing certain sites to run both IntelliTXT and Google Adsense on the same page and then turning around and telling other sites they can't.

Originally Posted by BamaStangGuy

You totally missed the entire point of the post lol. Google is allowing certain sites to run both IntelliTXT and Google Adsense on the same page and then turning around and telling other sites they can't.

What if the sites you've mentioned simply haven't been reported? Do you have any evidence that Google has ever shut down a site for running adsense and intxt on the same page? Maybe this is one of their "policies" that they turn a blind eye towards. Every company does it. It just doesn't seem like you have enough information to prove the point you're trying to make.

So we're not allowed to use Adsense with other contextual Ads? I'm switching to Yahoo! (once I'm banned for breaking this rule).

I doubt they'd do anything to you unless you're reported by another webmaster. :thumbdown:

Yet another one: http://www.hardforum.com/

feros: I have reported one site, stangnet.com to them a week ago. Doubt anything will happen to it though. I just want reasoning for why they do this.

I was making decent revenue with IntelliTXT before I had to remove it. Makes me very angry to know I am missing out on extra revenue everyday and my competitors aren't.

Originally Posted by BamaStangGuy

Yet another one: http://www.hardforum.com/

feros: I have reported one site, stangnet.com to them a week ago. Doubt anything will happen to it though. I just want reasoning for why they do this.

I was making decent revenue with IntelliTXT before I had to remove it. Makes me very angry to know I am missing out on extra revenue everyday and my competitors aren't.

You e-mailed them asking about whether or not you could put other contextual ads besides Google Adsense, that's why they didn't allow you. You can add your other ads back because I've seen many other websites do the same. If Adsense e-mails you telling you to remove the Ads, which I highly doubt they'll do, then remove them. For right now, put them back, you're loosing money!

Originally Posted by Shan

You e-mailed them asking about whether or not you could put other contextual ads besides Google Adsense, that's why they didn't allow you. You can add your other ads back because I've seen many other websites do the same. If Adsense e-mails you telling you to remove the Ads, which I highly doubt they'll do, then remove them. For right now, put them back, you're loosing money!

I am not going to put them back now, especially now that they have an email from me concerning it. I was making decent money, but no where near the money I make with adsense. So its just not something I can risk.

What they need to do is either alter their TOS or allow people to use IntelliTXT on their site. I can understand not being able to use Yahoo ads as those are a carbon copy of adsense. Not being able to use IntelliTXT is dumb as the words that are linked are predefined.

I also faced such "discrimination".

I was not allowed to serve both AdSense and Amazon's Omakase. I wrote about this here: Preferential Treatment by Google on Adsense TOS
h**p://ashwinr.com/2006/08/19/preferential-treatment-by-google-on-adsense-tos/

Big sites will make google money whether or not they run competitive ads or not. Google is not going to ban them. However with smaller sites, if competition to googles ads is provided it could mean that google generate no income from your site, so im pretty sure they would take action.

Its not discrimination its just common sense.