Is it possible to make the borders inside a table, the lines that seperate rows and columns, look the way a table looks when you use html border attributes but can it be done using CSS. it seems that CSS border styles only affect the outside border and it takes away the borders inside the table and I want the inside border color to match the outside border but the validator tells me that there is no attribute "bordercolor" because "the document type you are using does not support that attribute for this element." I have managed to validate all of the pages at www.bignightout.org except the shows.asp page because of the bordercolor attribute, would changing the DOCTYPE to LOOSE fix it I wonders?

I've noticed this problem aswell and it seesm to get worse from one browser to the next. I don't know a work around for this but what if you were to lose the tables border="?" and create all the borders in css. It wont look like the traditional table boorder but at least everything would be uniformed.

Sorry I couldn't be more useful

Do you mean something like this :

table, td {border:solid red 2px;}

The inner lines should be applied to <td>
The outer lines are applied to <table>

well now, thanks for your input and that would be the ticket too except I don't want to apply it to all of the tables on this page, just one in particular, I'm a newbee so maybe you could explain how to name a particular table so I could place it with a div? thanks

Then you must asign an Id to it.

e.g.

style1#table, td {border: solid red 2px}

Then, when you want it to apply:

e.g.

<table>
       <tr>
          <td id="style1">
          </td>
       </tr>
</table>

(I think that is right).

Personally I think the css route is a much better choice than border="?".

If you plan on using this for more than one table or cell, you should use a class instead. An ID should only be used once per page.

.anynameyouwant {border:solid red 2px;}

<table class="anynameyouwant">
<tr>
<td>
No border
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="anynameyouwant">
border
</td>
</tr>
</table>

Since this example only has two cells everything will look like it has a border.

Hope that helps,

hey Mik, I had to do it like this, td#style1 { but it works like a charm, putting id="style1" in every td that I wanted to affect, I think I like it, I like it alot.

and thanks to all of you for your help, I'm glad I joined up with this place !!!

as faze1 said if you use it more than once you need to use a class instead

td.style1 {

then

class="style1"

hey davemies, I was so danged happy to see it work like I wanted it to without using invalid markup I forgot about faze1 saying only once with the id cause it didn't validate so I did have to change it to a class and now it validates so I'm still happy, thanks alot yous guys cool beaners