Content & Writing Tycoon

**ideamanguy** · 11-10-2012, 06:36 AM

Hello,

I love free online flash games ! Since several months, I've tested lots of games and keep the URL of my best ones. One day, I'd like to open a website to show these games, a free websites with advertising to have some revenues.

I know how to create a website but not how do have some traffic I can monetize. So I think the best idea for me is to elaborate some files giving the URL of these games, some pictures to illustrate them. And to sell these files to some persons who want to create a gaming website and making advertising revenues with that.
My question is to know if you think someone can be interested to buy it to me ?

Thanks in advance

**Giselle** · 11-10-2012, 11:56 AM

My question would be copyright laws with the selling. I could see a website listing all the free online flash games, with a description of the game, possibly a graphic, but not from the original game site without securing permission to use their graphics from the site owners.

Not sure about reselling the website, if there would be an interest, but one never knows.....

**vultren** · 11-10-2012, 01:44 PM

You are a worker, not an entrepreneur. They call people like you a wantrepreneur because you want something, but know nothing about doing it.

**ideamanguy** · 11-10-2012, 02:49 PM

Thanks, Giselle, for your answer ! I will look at this. In the first time, I don't think there's a problem it's some kind of prestation of content writing. But I will look at the gaming websites's CGU.

@vultren. Yes ? And so what ?

**chrishirst** · 11-11-2012, 11:33 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragons%27_Den#Versions

**Giselle** · 11-11-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragons%27_Den#Versions

What does the link prove?

In my country a person comes up with an idea, talks to the people who are interested, secures financial backing, along with people in the know who can put the idea into action. Now the idea person has partners and is an entrepreneur. No difference between offline or online business techniques.

Is their any reason why there can't be a decent discussion without sniping at the Member?

**vultren** · 11-11-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragons%27_Den#Versions

He wouldn't even get an email asking for casting.

**ideamanguy** · 11-12-2012, 03:57 PM

Vultren,

This is the third message you post on my feeds. Is it too difficult for you to post something that can be a little intelligent and constructive ???

My situation is quite simple. I am not a webmarketer. A lack of competence but also I'm not really interested in creating and animating a online gaming website. But I loooove gaming and have tested a lot of flash online games.
I think there's online a lot of online gaming websites but also some blogs and websites showing and describing games. Too much content doesn't help internet user. And that's why I propose to produce some kind of content : a selection of online gaming to promote.

I have a lot of questions !!! In the first time, I think the best way is to try to sell my selection to someone who wants to create and monetize an online gaming website. Is it true ? Do you think someone can be interested ? Why ? Why not ?
Is there any other way to your mind than a website ? Which ? An ebook about flash gaming ?

**vultren** · 11-12-2012, 05:53 PM

I doubt you will find the information about running a game company here. I would suggest you research your field, raise capital, and learn how to run a business.

And this is coming from someone who has published games in HTML5 and iOS.

**chrishirst** · 11-12-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Giselle

What does the link prove?

In my country a person comes up with an idea, talks to the people who are interested, secures financial backing, along with people in the know who can put the idea into action. Now the idea person has partners and is an entrepreneur. No difference between offline or online business techniques.

Is their any reason why there can't be a decent discussion without sniping at the Member?

Doesn't prove anything, neither is it intended to do so. It is merely a suggestion as to what the TS can do.

**Giselle** · 11-13-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Doesn't prove anything, neither is it intended to do so. It is merely a suggestion as to what the TS can do.

I see.......

The Member, if not mistaken, was looking for actual feedback, discussions.....

**chrishirst** · 11-13-2012, 04:21 AM

Ok so this isn't one of the questions the TS asked then?

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My question is to know if you think someone can be interested to buy it to me ?

Assuming of course, that it should be "buy it from me", at which point watching how REAL entrepenurs pitch their ideas to potential investors and wantrepenurs fail to convince that they have a workable business proposition

Let's face it; the pitch in the opening post is more of a desperate ...

I want to have a [yet another] "flash games" website but haven't got a clue what to do about it.

... plea.
YET the expectation is that some mug/punter/idiot will come along and buy the [already copied] games from the TS.

But maybe I'm simply deluding myself in expecting someone with "idea man" in their forum moniker to be having one idea that is ORIGINAL.

**Giselle** · 11-13-2012, 12:19 PM

I understand what you are saying, but not deluded. Whether the Member has a great idea or not, that's hard to say.

Where is there an original idea? The only original idea I can think of right now is the Hulu Hoops. I'm not sure if Ford Motor Company was the original, today how many vehicle companies do we have now, stemming off of Ford, same thing with Motorcycles. Even Adobe Software isn't the original.

**vultren** · 11-13-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Giselle

Where is there an original idea? The only original idea I can think of right now is the Hulu Hoops. I'm not sure if Ford Motor Company was the original, today how many vehicle companies do we have now, stemming off of Ford, same thing with Motorcycles. Even Adobe Software isn't the original.

There are way less vehicle companies then there are Flash Game websites. His business "idea" is horrible from what he tried to pitch.

It doesn't solve any problems. It isn't cheaper than anything already offered, and it isn't innovative or have hype. He doesn't hit any one of those three things.

**Giselle** · 11-13-2012, 10:53 PM

It doesn't make any difference how many flash games websites there are, it's competition, might be harder to break in, but not necessarily. If you have an idea which isn't original but with a twist, something different from your competition, chances are it won't be as hard as offering something the same as your competitors.

All it takes is an idea and being able to connect with the right people.

**Shey** · 11-14-2012, 06:37 AM

Hi there,

Perhaps create an online virtual world wherein people can play for free. Developers earn money through in-game advertisements and in-game purchases. I came across this article from Forbes.com 'How Free Games Make Money'. I think it's a good read.

**ideamanguy** · 11-14-2012, 03:54 PM

Hello,

Thank you for your posts. Very interesting for me !

@chrishirst. No the expectation is not that. Just to find an answer to my question to know if it's possible to monetize the work I've done and how.
And no, the goal isn't especially to have an original idea. What I've imagined already exists. But if it is useful, it helps to solve a problem, I think this can work.

Ok so the problem is in my pitch. Good, let's try with Vultren's criterias.
According to me, the idea helps solving a problem.
The problem is that there's a lot of free online flash games you can play with from many websites all around the world. Different kind of games you don't especially like (if you like playing trial online games, you don't want to play with strategy games).
The need ? For a player, having a help, finding a website, a media which proposes him a subjective selection of games. The idea is that users that visits this websites are looking for the kind of games it shows.

The solution.
It's not original. There's online websites that shows only trial online flash games or Defence flash games. Some bloggers creates blog on which they show the games they love, this is a subjective selection.
And that's exactly my idea. My idea is that a certain number of persons like the same kind of games like me and so they will be interest by visiting a media showing and describing these games. They will visit one time and continue so as to discover new games it will present. They will do it because they like the games it shows, because they like the manner to present the games, the media.

How does it work.
I can choose the games, elaborate this selection, I know how to present each games in the selection. But I don't know how to distribute and market this selection. So I think the best think is to try selling the selection to someone who know how to promote and distribute a product but don't want to make the product itself.

Better pitch ?

**vultren** · 11-15-2012, 02:06 AM

How are you going to get the games? Distribution comes WAY later after you actually have a service or a product.

And to me, that's not solving any problem. If that was "problem solving" then I can inform you that the problem you have can be solved with a Google search for "free adventure flash games". You are offering an entertainment service.

**ideamanguy** · 11-16-2012, 03:00 PM

Hello,

I am not sure to have understand what you want to say.

First of all, I won't have to get any games. My goal is not to create new games, just to show the one that already exists,
Second, it's not a entertainment service (if I understand well the sense of this expression) : the games won't be hosted on my website but already are hosted on other websites all around the world. My goal is to elaborate a subjective selection, showing my favourites one.

So effectively your example is good. If you search "free adventures flash games" and is looking for certain kind of games, it won't help you. You will find lots of websites and games. But if you love special kind of games (some kind of point & click eg, 2d platformer of certain style...) it won't interest you.
So my idea is that a subjective selection will help users because it will make their discover games they will love. That's why I want to sell a subjective selection.

And my idea is to looking for a person that will create the product and distribute it. it can be a writer that will elaborate a book with my selection, a marketer that will create a website and make advertising revenue, a developer that will create an application with my selection and sell the application...

**chrishirst** · 11-16-2012, 07:33 PM

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And my idea is to looking for a person that will create the product and distribute it. it can be a writer that will elaborate a book with my selection, a marketer that will create a website and make advertising revenue, a developer that will create an application with my selection and sell the application...

So: Your plan is to have a "directory" come "blog" come "review site" that people will find invaluable when seeking a "flash game site" to squander a portion of their life on.

I do see one major flaw in that plan. What makes you so important in the grand scheme of things that people WILL take notice of what you suggest or "select" as being "good" and want to thrust their products at you for you to pass judgement upon??