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Old 02-05-2007, 06:04 PM This guy REALLY hates Macs
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I hate Macs

Charlie Brooker
Monday February 5, 2007
The Guardian

Unless you have been walking around with your eyes closed, and your head encased in a block of concrete, with a blindfold tied round it, in the dark - unless you have been doing that, you surely can't have failed to notice the current Apple Macintosh campaign starring David Mitchell and Robert Webb, which has taken over magazines, newspapers and the internet in a series of brutal coordinated attacks aimed at causing massive loss of resistance. While I don't have anything against shameless promotion per se (after all, within these very brackets I'm promoting my own BBC4 show, which starts tonight at 10pm), there is something infuriating about this particular blitz. In the ads, Webb plays a Mac while Mitchell adopts the mantle of a PC. We know this because they say so right at the start of the ad.
"Hello, I'm a Mac," says Webb.
"And I'm a PC," adds Mitchell.
They then perform a small comic vignette aimed at highlighting the differences between the two computers. So in one, the PC has a "nasty virus" that makes him sneeze like a plague victim; in another, he keeps freezing up and having to reboot. This is a subtle way of saying PCs are unreliable. Mitchell, incidentally, is wearing a nerdy, conservative suit throughout, while Webb is dressed in laid-back contemporary casual wear. This is a subtle way of saying Macs are cool.
The ads are adapted from a near-identical American campaign - the only difference is the use of Mitchell and Webb. They are a logical choice in one sense (everyone likes them), but a curious choice in another, since they are best known for the television series Peep Show - probably the best sitcom of the past five years - in which Mitchell plays a repressed, neurotic underdog, and Webb plays a selfish, self-regarding poseur. So when you see the ads, you think, "PCs are a bit rubbish yet ultimately lovable, whereas Macs are just smug, preening tossers." In other words, it is a devastatingly accurate campaign.
I hate Macs. I have always hated Macs. I hate people who use Macs. I even hate people who don't use Macs but sometimes wish they did. Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
PCs are the ramshackle computers of the people. You can build your own from scratch, then customise it into oblivion. Sometimes you have to slap it to make it work properly, just like the Tardis (Doctor Who, incidentally, would definitely use a PC). PCs have charm; Macs ooze pretension. When I sit down to use a Mac, the first thing I think is, "I hate Macs", and then I think, "Why has this rubbish aspirational ornament only got one mouse button?" Losing that second mouse button feels like losing a limb. If the ads were really honest, Webb would be standing there with one arm, struggling to open a packet of peanuts while Mitchell effortlessly tore his apart with both hands. But then, if the ads were really honest, Webb would be dressed in unbelievably po-faced avant-garde clothing with a gigantic glowing apple on his back. And instead of conducting a proper conversation, he would be repeatedly congratulating himself for looking so cool, and banging on about how he was going to use his new laptop to write a novel, without ever getting round to doing it, like a mediocre idiot.
Cue 10 years of nasal bleating from Mac-likers who profess to like Macs not because they are fashionable, but because "they are just better". Mac owners often sneer that kind of defence back at you when you mock their silly, posturing contraptions, because in doing so, you have inadvertently put your finger on the dark fear haunting their feeble, quivering soul - that in some sense, they are a superficial semi-person assembled from packaging; an infinitely sad, second-rate replicant who doesn't really know what they are doing here, but feels vaguely significant and creative each time they gaze at their sleek designer machine. And the more deftly constructed and wittily argued their defence, the more terrified and wounded they secretly are.
Aside from crowing about sartorial differences, the adverts also make a big deal about PCs being associated with "work stuff" (Boo! Offices! Boo!), as opposed to Macs, which are apparently better at "fun stuff". How insecure is that? And how inaccurate? Better at "fun stuff", my arse. The only way to have fun with a Mac is to poke its insufferable owner in the eye. For proof, stroll into any decent games shop and cast your eye over the exhaustive range of cutting-edge computer games available exclusively for the PC, then compare that with the sort of rubbish you get on the Mac. Myst, the most pompous and boring videogame of all time, a plodding, dismal "adventure" in which you wandered around solving tedious puzzles in a rubbish magic kingdom apparently modelled on pretentious album covers, originated on the Mac in 1993. That same year, the first shoot-'em-up game, Doom, was released on the PC. This tells you all you will ever need to know about the Mac's relationship with "fun".
Ultimately the campaign's biggest flaw is that it perpetuates the notion that consumers somehow "define themselves" with the technology they choose. If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. Of course, that hasn't stopped me slagging off Mac owners, with a series of sweeping generalisations, for the past 900 words, but that is what the ads do to PCs. Besides, that's what we PC owners are like - unreliable, idiosyncratic and gleefully unfair. And if you'll excuse me now, I feel an unexpected crash coming.
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Old 02-13-2007, 02:24 AM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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2true. Thats all i have to say. Mac users are too full of themselves. He should talk about the growing number of bugs being found in macs and how they don't like to talk about it.
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:36 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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It's all true. I just hate the Apple adverts whose main purpose is to make fun of PC's but not focus on the product being sold.
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:44 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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He said everything I was thinking.

MAC is an acronym: Moronic Annoying Crap.
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:55 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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Charlie Brooker is an amazing writer. He has written for some classic British TV shows like The 11 o`clock show, Nathan barley and the classic brass eye.

While that article is very funny, It also has a huge amount of truth to it.
Of course not all mac users are like that, But a lot are.
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:46 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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I hate Macs. I have always hated Macs. I hate people who use Macs. I even hate people who don't use Macs but sometimes wish they did. Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
LMFAO, I think I'm going to cry.

While I would never tear into someone (or a group of people) like that I totally agree.
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:59 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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That's the only paragraph I disagree with, actually. Kids outgrow Fisher-Price toys, eventually. Adults that start using MACs generally don't outgrow them.

Anyone really want to have a laugh? Give a MAC user a PC and make them use the mouse. The second button just KILLS 'em. And if it's got a scroll wheel...click, click, BOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:18 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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First off... I am a PC guy through and through. I would never buy a Mac if I had the option to get a PC... So don't kill me for saying this.

Macs do have their own purpose, primarly for graphic design stuff. I had a friend who interviewing for a design job and she didn't get it because she was trained in photoshop on a PC and didn't know all the short-cut keys for the Mac. So Macs are necessary in some fields.

Now let me go one step farther and piss everyone else off and say that Microsoft Windows Sucks!!! If Linux had more software available for the platform... I would wipe Microsoft Windows from my hard drive.

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Old 02-16-2007, 06:16 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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Funny But being a mac user myself I can say the stereotypes are completely false.

Most of the opinions of mac users expressed here are those that belong to extremist mac users. And you can't say that the PC audience doesn't have the same kind of extremist users. I wouldn't say "a lot" of mac users fit the description, I would say the same percentage that any other platform has. I think the mac loyalists are just more outspoken with their fervor (sites like Apple Rumors are grow-houses of such users!). You'll notice how some hard-core Linux users also have the same "holier then thou" attitude. Anyway, I don't want to sound too defensive or else I'll be flamed as a mac zealot

And re the mouse thing: I'm on a mac and am using a Logitech Revolution mouse. It's got two mouse buttons, a scroll wheel, and all sorts of other buttons. Using this mouse certainly does take about 80% of my concentration though, I wish I had that one mouse button back...
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:34 AM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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Funny But being a mac user myself I can say the stereotypes are completely false.

Most of the opinions of mac users expressed here are those that belong to extremist mac users. And you can't say that the PC audience doesn't have the same kind of extremist users. I wouldn't say "a lot" of mac users fit the description, I would say the same percentage that any other platform has. I think the mac loyalists are just more outspoken with their fervor (sites like Apple Rumors are grow-houses of such users!). You'll notice how some hard-core Linux users also have the same "holier then thou" attitude. Anyway, I don't want to sound too defensive or else I'll be flamed as a mac zealot

And re the mouse thing: I'm on a mac and am using a Logitech Revolution mouse. It's got two mouse buttons, a scroll wheel, and all sorts of other buttons. Using this mouse certainly does take about 80% of my concentration though, I wish I had that one mouse button back...
Haha, i use a macbook pro and a G4 for all kinds of stuff, it's great and i love it with my 2 button mouse. It's exactly like a pc. if you owned a mac what would be different than owning a pc? About 90% of the idiots that say "macs suck," have never used a mac, or still use the original bondi-blue imacs.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:36 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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The thing that bugs me most about Mac is the flip-flopping. They don't have any convictions, but they pretend to. That's lieing, as far as I'm concerned.

Remember the great horror of WinTel? How Bill Gates was coming in the night to eat your children? How Intel's chips used to be the evil empire? Now they're just fine and dandy. In fact, they're better than the chips Mac used to use. Intel used to hate puppies, now they're wonderful and unique and better than what PCs use.
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:22 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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I see this whole thread started beause of MAC ads against pc's... well some people have make parady adverts!,

I p***ed my self laughing at these.

Parady: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oc4oP_ITqMc

games mac Vs pc parady: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z7y2i10jS...related&search=

Get a life Mac/PC spoof: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QG2uz2app...related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vV5mZ8Ox8&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxQS_3A7_Fc&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BUOXVI7HeI&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nn-t...related&search=

mac ad conselor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tMx...related&search=

angel/devil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG1IjsJH8eQ&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojLrHi8ndVs&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zeQAiL-tZ4&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIELI...related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcDpFLSTZWU&NR

strange guy made a few mac paradies... you will see why he likes mac...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_oT-...related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vX6Z...related&search=

a couple of old mac ads http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKewi...related&search=
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c90x5...related&search=


THIS IS BY FAR THE FUNNIEST MAC PARDY I HAVE EVERY SEEN!! WATCH THIS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOEKB...related&search=
YOU MUST WATCH IT, EVEN IF YOU WATCH NONE OF THE OTER VIDEOS YOU MUST WATCH THIS!

Imagine if they saw what computers can do today...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw1BL...related&search=



im sure i you look you can find more i just find them so funny, post lik tothers if u know of any thanks

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Old 02-22-2007, 06:34 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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I had to ad this when i seen it!

Microsoft sales women telling a caller that macs and pcs can do the same things and the windows need loads of software etc and macs "jsut don't get viruses"
LMAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGS1Eor-bFw&NR

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Old 02-25-2007, 01:49 AM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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First off... I am a PC guy through and through. I would never buy a Mac if I had the option to get a PC... So don't kill me for saying this.

Macs do have their own purpose, primarly for graphic design stuff. I had a friend who interviewing for a design job and she didn't get it because she was trained in photoshop on a PC and didn't know all the short-cut keys for the Mac. So Macs are necessary in some fields.

Now let me go one step farther and piss everyone else off and say that Microsoft Windows Sucks!!! If Linux had more software available for the platform... I would wipe Microsoft Windows from my hard drive.

Long Live Linux!
They have windows emulators for linux now its great.
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Old 02-25-2007, 06:02 PM Re: This guy REALLY hates Macs
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