Are you Ready to try IE 7 - Beta????
01-31-2006, 01:59 PM
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Name: Steven Bradley
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I'm certainly interested in seeing what the new IE will be like though it still won't be my main browswer. It doesn't look like the general public can get IE 7 yet, but hopefully soon. My only request from Microsoft is they allow me to have both IE 7 and IE 6 installed on the same computer to make my development life a little easier.
I'm mostly hoping the new browser is more compliant with standard code so that in a few years I can drop some of the IE hacks I use in devlopment.
I am looking forward to the public release. I'm guessing it will be this summer, but I'd be happy if it was sooner.
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01-31-2006, 07:01 PM
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I am not in the leist interested in it, firefox has made me a perminent customer. if MS left all those holes in IE for that many years, why wouldnt they do it with the obviously buggy version 7?
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01-31-2006, 07:44 PM
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My only request from Microsoft is they allow me to have both IE 7 and IE 6 installed on the same computer to make my development life a little easier.
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You could use VMWare or Microsoft VirtualPC to do this. (There's also PearPC that emulates a Mac)
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I'm mostly hoping the new browser is more compliant with standard code so that in a few years I can drop some of the IE hacks I use in devlopment.
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You'll still have to wait for the masses to drop IE6. Some of use are still waiting for them to drop IE5! Some companies have a tendancy to stick with what works for them, even if that means using old, outdated software...
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if MS left all those holes in IE for that many years,
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Years? Holes? IE6 with the latest software updates applied has no known holes.
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why wouldnt they do it with the obviously buggy version 7?
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Buggy? Have you fully tested it? Did you even realise it's still in Beta Preview therefore bound to have a few bugs? |
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01-31-2006, 08:09 PM
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01-31-2006, 09:19 PM
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No way, I switched to firefox and will never go bacK!
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01-31-2006, 10:21 PM
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Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Thanks for the link 5urlcom. I'm downloading as I type.
Minaki I know you're a big IE supporter. Sorry,but Firefox has become my default browser for a variety of reasons. I'm not someone who thinks IE is bad though. I have a hunch IE7 is going to be pretty good in fact. I assume the beta will be a little buggy, but that's to be expected and I'm not going to judge the browser on it.
I know it'll be years before I can drop coding for IE6 and it's really ok. I've found all my workarounds and it's not nearly as much as people think. The only things I generally have to trick IE about is min and max widths and heights and I've found some easy workarounds so it's no big deal. I think too many people complain about a browser not working instead of just taking the time to learn to code a little better. I find if you start with standards compliant stuff and then tweak a little for various browsers at the end it's pretty easy to get things looking good across broswers.
I do wish I could use some new things like border-radius more, but it's not too big a deal to wait. And I can always code that stuff for those who have updated browsers. The masses will just have to live with corners a little longer.
I've thought about installing VMWare at some point, but it's not going to happen tonight or this week so for now I'll just live with instaling IE7 on a different drive and testing it out. I'm interested on what's in the new version, but I switched to Firefox a year and a half ago and will continue to use it as my primary browser.
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01-31-2006, 10:56 PM
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I'll download and try it, though I highly doubt I'll ever start using it as my primary browser again.
While we're on the topic of browsers, I thought it might be fun to reveal the stats we get here on WT: - IE: 65.9%
- FF: 24.7%
- Opera: 3.2%
I wonder how these percentages will fluctuate as people go back to / try IE with this new version. |
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01-31-2006, 11:36 PM
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I'm already happy with my FF and if ever I'm gonna change browser, definitely not IE.
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02-01-2006, 04:24 AM
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I think too many people complain about a browser not working instead of just taking the time to learn to code a little better. I find if you start with standards compliant stuff and then tweak a little for various browsers at the end it's pretty easy to get things looking good across broswers.
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Yeah I definatly agree with that! |
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02-01-2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Minaki
Years? Holes? IE6 with the latest software updates applied has no known holes.
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not true. havent you heard of that recent javascript exploit? that is only one of them
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Buggy? Have you fully tested it? Did you even realise it's still in Beta Preview therefore bound to have a few bugs?
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I am speaking of the finished product. since when has MS EVER made a product that there isnt a better version of. o yes, never
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02-01-2006, 01:50 PM
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I'm am testing the BETA version. Firefox is still way better IMO.
The new IE is making my screen wavy when I scroll down on a page for some reason!
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02-01-2006, 05:03 PM
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Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Does anyone know if I can install the IE7 on a different drive on my laptop other than C:\?
I started to install it last night and before I got too far it looked like the install was just going to overwirte my existing IE6 without giving me an option to install elsewhere.
I have other computers I could install it on, but truthfully I rarely ever use any but the laptop I'm typing on now. I'm not really wanting to install something like VMWare at the moment just to test out a beta version of a browser.
Any other ideas?
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02-01-2006, 07:41 PM
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The FAQ on IEBlog says:
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Can I run the preview and IE6 at the same time?
No, the preview is a system upgrade that replaces IE6 on your computer with the preview code.
As Chris Wilson pointed out, "'IE' is actually a collection of system components - networking, browser hosting, core HTML rendering, printing, etc. When we install a new version of IE, we're installing it for all applications that use these system components - including the tiny iexplore.exe itself." Because of this, we do not support the various hacks that allow side by side running of IE6 and the IE7 Beta 2 Preview. Running with these could cause issues with the stability of a system.
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02-01-2006, 08:34 PM
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Name: Steven Bradley
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Thanks Chroder. I had a feeling that was the case. Thought I'd ask anyway. Looks like I'll have to wait a little while to take a look at IE7. I need to keep IE6 on this computer at the moment to test sites
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02-02-2006, 04:58 AM
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I am speaking of the finished product. since when has MS EVER made a product that there isnt a better version of. o yes, never
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That's a matter of oppinion. IMO, the vast majority of the products that Microsoft make are miles better than any of the alternatives.
The fact is, no software is 100% bug free. Yes, even Firefox (Firefox has in fact had loads of holes in the recent months...) | |
