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Old 06-29-2008, 07:03 AM What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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I really don't see what is so good about them; apart from the fact that they look cool and aren't prone to viruses like Windows.

Ive tried to give them a chance, both when I was in college; aswell as borrowing a Mac for about 6 months. Both times theyve just infuriated me, it seems like you have to do everything the long way round! e.g. opening a piece of software just to take a screenshot.

Theres also the common situation of Apple sacrificing practicality for 'coolness'. Like the way a lot of Macs require the keyboard to open the CD tray, well what if your keyboard breaks? It might look cool not having an eject button on the computer itself but I'd rather be able to get the CD out without needing a mouse or keyboard.

I basically have the same views towards Itunes and Ipods, I just don't see why they are apparently 'better than everything else' like a lot of people make them out to be.

Does anyone else here agree? Or have I just offended the majority of people on this forum? lol
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Old 06-29-2008, 11:10 AM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Both times theyve just infuriated me, it seems like you have to do everything the long way round! e.g. opening a piece of software just to take a screenshot.
The short cut for screen shots on a Mac is Command+Shift+3
Sounds to me like you just didn't know how to use the machine

Personally, I'm not sure how Mac's "look cool" (other then the better OS - which Windows ripped off with Vista), I don't dig the white look.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:36 AM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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mac computers are waste of money you can buy better computer in Half the price...
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:22 AM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Macs are good on multimedia intense environment... and intel based are good for alround performance
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:41 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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I think that PC vs Mac started long ago, when there was a huge difference. Over the years it seems that the gap has narrowed.
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:47 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Basic gist of things:
Apple was pretty popular in the days of yore.
Microsoft, a company that had been developing programming tools, bought a version of DOS to seal a deal with IBM and found that there was money in OS's.
They developed Windows and sold it on cheaper imported hardware, stealing a fair bit of Apple's thunder, which was also lacking due to Steve Jobs buggering off to found NeXT Systems.
A lot of bad decisions and lost money later and Apple needed a completely new image, so they bought Jobs' little company for his Unix based OS, which was used to build OS X.
Jobs being the marketing type, pointed out that students and trendy types like bright shiny things, and the iMac and iBook were born.
Since then, Apple has toned down the mad colours and curves in favour of more mainstream styles.
Apple fans are either long time fans from ye olde days, or converts that have bought into Apple's whole ideology.

I almost bought a Mac a year or so ago after converting to Linux, but after buying a G2 iPod Nano 4GiB, I decided not to bother as buying an iPod was a horrible mistake that I'd never repeat (really awful quality aluminium casing, I've had to beat it to get it to turn off, and my headphones have almost disintegrated... If that's what a 1ft drop does, there's something wrong as my phone (Sony K800i) has had much worse many times over from 3 different owners (I bought it, let my parents have it, and got it back again) and it's in pretty much mint condition).
I've managed to get my mitts on two Apple laptops and both are completely ruined, though I've had similarly old PC's that would still boot and run fine (Win95 on a 486 is horrible, but boredom + QBasic = less boredom).

Apple's big advantage is their OS.
It's built on BSD Unix (Darwin Project), but unlike other *nix OS's, they have better 3rd party support, meaning more commercial apps like Photoshop and more official hardware support.
Unix is, by design, more security oriented than Windows, and Unix like OS's tend to be more modular and less greedy, meaning you can do more on less hardware.
Strip away the applications, the marketing and the hardware though, and there's little that you can't do with Linux (Ubuntu with Compiz can do all the fancy pants visual effects and there's a number of system search tools).

I'm not anti-Apple, I wouldn't buy a computer built by Microsoft either (my Microsoft wireless mouse had a seizure and I'm on my 3rd Xbox 360 :[), but I really hate the elitism of Apple fanboys who think Windows is used by idiots and - to quote a Mac user I know - "Linux is a poor man's OS X"...
Each OS has it's benefits and weaknesses, and if you know what you're doing, you can do a lot with each.
I do support Apple's stance on EFI replacing BIOS use as EFI would essentially allow users to run any compliant hardware under any compliant OS.
Intel's EFI basically means that a piece of hardware has it's driver built into itself on a ROM chip.
The OS talks to the EFI system, meaning that every OS uses the same drivers.
Microsoft is reluctant to support it because you could install Linux with full hardware support once ye olde BIOS is dead and gone.
Apple supports Windows by using BIOS emulation on top of their EFI implementation.

OS X is well suited to average skilled people who don't play PC games who want a secure and stable system that'll be good for office, artistic and general use without worrying too much about security.
Windows is well suited to gamers and general users who don't mind putting up with security and odd quirks that can be worked around.
Linux is well suited to technical types that can work around poorer hardware support and lack of 3rd party support from companies like Adobe.

Personally, I'm happy with my Intel Core 2 Duo 17" widescreen Samsung laptop :/
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:09 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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OS - which Windows ripped off with Vista
Of course, by that logic, Apple stole the hardware architecture from PCs. It was only a couple years ago that Mac finally gave in and admitted that Intel is superior, after us Windows users have been using them forever.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:58 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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The only mac I've only touched one mac. That mac was bought by my father back in the early 90's. It lasted him for over 10 years. It was perfect for what he needed, but I personally don't have much of liking towards them. I find the mac book pro overpriced compared to other notebooks. I'm also a gamer, that also turns me off from using a mac.
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:05 AM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:37 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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I've got feedback from my friend which is photographer by profession. He said that MAC can produce excellent image for photography.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:23 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Macs are more secure and actually programs are easier not harder to run on them. It takes two seconds to install nearly any program and it doesn't have to leech off of system files in the same way many windows based programs do.

I think if you would have taken 20 minutes to familiarize yourself with them you would have seen that it is easier (they also have a cd eject on the screen too if you would have looked for it).

I do agree with some of the posts that they spend a little to much time on the "cool" factor though.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:27 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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I do sometimes get the urge to give Mac's another try. I think one day I may eventually convert over, but it may take some time aswell as the use of a more reliable Mac than those which I've used in the past!
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:49 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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I've got feedback from my friend which is photographer by profession. He said that MAC can produce excellent image for photography.
Actually, you need a camera and a photographer to make photos.
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:15 AM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Macs are way cooler than PC. Its just the color and its interface.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:13 AM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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love the look simple yet elegant.. and i don't have to worry about with virus and stuff.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:41 AM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Mac's are behind in the world. PC with Linux Wins!
Ding, Ding, Ding. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!

If you were going to buy a MAC you should really get a PC with Linux.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:11 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Even if they do have a better os it is so much cheaper to just build a PC and put linux or whatever on it
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:08 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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I have iMac and Macbook, love them both!!
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:56 PM Re: What's all the hype about Macs? Really?
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Mine sucks. It's a G4 ibook and I can't get anything cool to run on it. I just signed up to Facebook and it's slow as pork.
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