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Old 06-26-2007, 02:06 PM Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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I'm trying to make the jump into using RAW files. The problem that I'm having is retreving the file in photoshop CS2 to start prosesing them. I download from my camera (canon EOS) with Canon software and save them in dated folders crated in the software. To open the file I need to first proses it in the Canon software and then open it. I know I'm not doing this correct as my file is around 58mb by the time all has been shrpend.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:20 PM Re: Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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I don't think this is what you're asking, but for clarity's sake, you can't save a raw file. You can open them in several different applications, convert them to different formats, but you can't take an image in PS and create a raw file.

It probably depends what camera you're using to some extent, but my 5D came out after CS 2, and I can open raw files with it. In both Photoshop and Bridge, there's an Update menu under Tools - you want to hit one of those. It will run updates against all your Adobe software, probably a few of them, and should add raw support.

You should be able to see thumbnails of your raw images in Bridge, and double click to open them directly in Photoshop. You'll get a new window that pops up inside PS, asking if you'd like to change the exposure, white balance, and so on. This is Adobe Camera Raw, or just ACR for short. I've played with a lot of converters, and while I haven't done an exhaustive side-by-side test of apples-to-apples, general experience has me thinking ACR and Phase One Capture One are the two best converters around. I prefer ACR to Canon's raw converter, at least the one that ships with my 5D.

After conversion, instead of being saved to disc, the file opens directly in Photoshop. You probably want to use 16 bit mode to pull as much tonal detail as you can get to work with, and it's important to remember you need to convert color profiles from Adobe RGB to sRGB; web browsers don't understand embedded profiles and just assume sRGB, so if you use aRGB, with its wider gamut, a lot of the colors in your image won't display properly, and will look washed out in general.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:38 PM Re: Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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Thank you ForrestCroce.
I am creating the RAW image with the camera, it's when I go to Bridge in Photoshop and click on the thumbnail it will not open. I've tried shoting in RAW only and RAW & jpeg files. When I go to the folder through bridge there are 2 files. 1 that says raw and the second beign the jpeg shows the image. The jpeg files is around 3 to 4mb amd the raw 11.1mb. I can open the raw file if I have prosest it in Zoombrowseer that came with the camera. Once I've done that and gone through my steps in photoshop to sharpen and proses the images im sitting at a file that is around 58mb. I will download updates, so thank you for the advise on that. Do you still use the software that came with your Canon?
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:13 PM Re: Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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In Bridge, go to the Help menu, and select Updates.

How are you saving the file? At 60 MB, it sounds like you might be using 48 bits per pixel, and saving a TIFF?
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:02 PM Re: Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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I have downloaded the updates and once again thank you!. Yes I was saving in TIFF and have changed that, was not aware that I should not be working with 48 bpp and have changed it to 16. I still have the problem that I started with. I think that I'm not starting the correct way. Please read through this and see were I'm causing the problem
> Have the camera set on RAW & L (jpeg image on the highest pixel)
> Import Images to a dated folder in ZoomBrowser (Canon software)
> Both imgaes are in the folder. The RAW images file name is IMG.0107.CR2 and the jpeg image can be seen as a thumbnail with the file name IMG.0107.JPG
> Open Photoshop bridge and I can see the 2 thumbnails, the RAW one is a icon with the letters CR2 accross it and the jpeg image can be seen.
> I have tried two ways of opening the file A.) Ctrl/Alt and click on the icon. B.) double click on the icon
> Photoshop open with a mesage box, NOT THE RIGHT KIND OF DOCUMENT
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:40 PM Re: Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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There were some more downloads that installed after I rebooted and with those installed I'm able to open up the file that has the RAW images.
Thank you very much for the help and sanity!
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:47 PM Re: Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:21 AM Re: Help with saving RAW file for PS CS2
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Thanks. Yeah, I forgot you have to reboot before it works.

I played with RAW+L for a while, to speed up my post-processing workflow. You get thumbs faster that way, even still, and don't have to wait for the conversion, although ACR is pretty quick nowadays. Lately I've been using raw pretty exclusively, and stopped shooting jpegs along with them ... whenever I found something I was happy with, I'd go back to the raw anyway, so I wanted to cut out the middleman. It takes longer for Bridge to create the thumbs, but there's only one of each image.
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